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re: Coach O Is Crushing It
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:27 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:27 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Depends. Does the new job involve revamping the product/service to a great extent?
First of all, this is a bullshite statement. Nothing about LSU has been revamped.
Second of all - nah - it doesn't depend. Maybe you should have just said "no." When you get or have a high paying job and you are given any product that isn't up to expectations - that is not taken into account when your performance is reviewed, not even after the first year. Your job is to make it freaking happen.
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Coach O has been charged with putting in a passing offense. That takes some time. That is a major change that Miles avoided for many years.
LOL. Cool - we are 1 year removed from kids starting Kindergarden that have never seen an offense under O put in a passing offense. Ironically, in 2019, he has the same OC that he had in 2016. Sounds familiar.
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The last 4 games showed a huge improvement in the pass game. I believe the passing game will make another major leap forward over the Spring and off-season.
I guess we will see against Texas. I used to watch the Spring game and be interested in that, but my perception of who O is and how he operates would not surprise me if they rigged the spring game to allow the passing offense to look a whole lot better than it actually is. They have proven that they care a whole lot more about PR than results on the field.
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:28 am to p&g
Don’t talk about disingenuous your literally trying to compare Dabo and O who were in 2 very different situations and are 2 very different coaches
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:34 am to TrevRollings29
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First of all, this is a bullshitee statement. Nothing about LSU has been revamped.
No. It is just above your depth of knowledge. If you don't understand that changing an entire offense that has been recruiting and developing (for decades) for a run-heavy offense to a passing offense is a huge task, then your football IQ is beyond hope.
Try basketball
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 8:39 am
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:35 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Coach O hasn’t stopped trying to improve LSU’s offense, expect some position changes, his new analysts offering critique of player positions and schemes. Should be an interesting 2019 season.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:36 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Again, ignorant shite being spewed by a guy who’s been a fan for like what 9 months?
We’ve recruited high end WR always
We’ve recruiting receiving tight end
This isn’t some triple option team we just never utilized them.
We’ve recruited high end WR always
We’ve recruiting receiving tight end
This isn’t some triple option team we just never utilized them.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 8:39 am
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:38 am to SammyTiger
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Again, ignorant shite being spewed by a guy who’s been a fan for like what 9 months?
You can be a fan for 9 minutes and know that most of what’s posted here is sheer fantasy.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:40 am to SammyTiger
quote:I've been a fan and student of the passing game for longer than you've been alive. And Burrow is the real deal, and you're too damn dumb to recognize it.
Again, ignorant shite being spewed by a guy who’s been a fan for like what 9 months?
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:43 am to Buckeye Jeaux
I’m I’ve literally never disagreed with that.
I am A big Burrow fan.
I am saying we’ve always had the talent to pass the ball, we just made it harder than it should have been.
I am A big Burrow fan.
I am saying we’ve always had the talent to pass the ball, we just made it harder than it should have been.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:44 am to SammyTiger
It’s not ignorant at all... O brought in a competent qb.
Should I link Sabans comments about the LSU offense changes and differences before t years game?
Let me guess... you’re more qualified to discet LSU’s offense than NS?
I swear this so pointless.... I’ve never seen a group of people who literally believe they have it all figured out when it comes to he Xs Os in and outs of the LSU football program.
You losers absolutely missed your calling in life.
Should I link Sabans comments about the LSU offense changes and differences before t years game?
Let me guess... you’re more qualified to discet LSU’s offense than NS?
I swear this so pointless.... I’ve never seen a group of people who literally believe they have it all figured out when it comes to he Xs Os in and outs of the LSU football program.
You losers absolutely missed your calling in life.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:46 am to SammyTiger
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I am saying we’ve always had the talent to pass the ball, we just made it harder than it should have been.
The last time we had a QB of any significant talent (Mett) we did pass the ball well. We certainly have not always had the talent.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:47 am to p&g
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Should I link Sabans comments about the LSU offense changes and differences before t years game?
Yea, he had a hell of a time defending it...
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:47 am to The First Cut
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Saban’s teams were purely pro style until the very recent.quote:
And most believe that’s why he lost, he departed from his winning formula of stout D and ball control offense.
ROFL. Dude, Saban hired Kiffin as his OC 5 flippin years ago. FIVE.
Lost what? The national title game? LOL! No - most believe that he hired too many inexperienced assistants to boost recruiting that didn't have the experience to coach the proper technique.
That assumption is freaking ridiculous. He lost because he didn't run an out dated offense and control the clock?
Clemson's winning formula is just better. It doesn't include a ball control offense. Their defense still held Alabama to only 16 points. Think about that.
Yea - you're right though. Nick Saban lost because he didn't have a ball control offense - that's why he just went and hired Steve Sarkisian.
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Yea, he had a hell of a time defending it...
Well, he doesn't have any objective data to use - let him use his quotes. That proves everything. Saban loves O as LSU's HC.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 8:49 am
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:47 am to p&g
Coach talk is coach talk.
And we were different for sure this year
Just not good.
And Saban clearly figures out our X’s and Os
Remember at the time Saban was “talking up” an offense that was absolutely putrid
And we were different for sure this year
Just not good.
And Saban clearly figures out our X’s and Os
Remember at the time Saban was “talking up” an offense that was absolutely putrid
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:51 am to The First Cut
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The last time we had a QB of any significant talent (Mett) we did pass the ball well. We certainly have not always had the talent.
You need a hell of a lot more than the talent. You need total committment from the HC and the higher-ups. LSU now has that.
Next you need to revamp the existing offense to make room for a totally new scheme. LSU is well into that process.
You don't just change your play calls like Madden football. These changes take time. '19 should look good for the LSU pass game.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:52 am to The First Cut
Even then it was a lot of Mett chucking it deep and relying on Odel or Jarvis to just go get it.
But that was pretty much the only time we looked good passing the ball since 2007.
And it took 2 NFL pro bowl WRs and a guy who played in the league at QB.
But that was pretty much the only time we looked good passing the ball since 2007.
And it took 2 NFL pro bowl WRs and a guy who played in the league at QB.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:53 am to TrevRollings29
With the offensive changes of late, Saban is 1-2 in title games. The talent gap gets them there, not so much scheme. Look for Bama to go much more run heavy next year.
You can bookmark this.
You can bookmark this.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:53 am to Buckeye Jeaux
it takes a lot more time to upgrade talent than scheme.
Look at TCU when they switched to the spread.
Or literally everywhere Kendall Briles has coached the last 3 years.
Almost instant improvement because the schemes are easy to pick up and work.
Look at TCU when they switched to the spread.
Or literally everywhere Kendall Briles has coached the last 3 years.
Almost instant improvement because the schemes are easy to pick up and work.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:53 am to SammyTiger
I certainly agree we need to be better.
Specifically better on the offensive line.
I have high hopes for 2019 as we all should.
Specifically better on the offensive line.
I have high hopes for 2019 as we all should.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:53 am to SammyTiger
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But that was pretty much the only time we looked good passing the ball since 2007.
2007 was also the last year, prior to Mett, that we had a QB with even NFL clipboard carrying status.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:55 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Coach O has been charged with putting in a passing offense.
First of all, the idea that an Athletic Director charged Ed freaking Orgeron with the task of putting in a “passing offense” would have to be one of the more hilarious thoughts in CFB history.
Second, is he even doing that? Are we a “passing offense” now?
I mean, I know we haven’t run the ball as well as we used to, but that was supposed to be due to a lack of elite talent in the backfield, which we appear to have now.
Do Ohio State fans assume we aren’t going do everything we can to reestablish that we run the ball? Was USC a passing offense, since that is what O has stated he wants to run?
Lastly, the narrative that the passing game improved over the last four games is similar to the mirage of 2016, when we ran up stats against awful defenses, which the last four teams we faced were, with the exception of TAM, who held us in check in regulation until both defenses fell apart in multiple overtimes.
I love Burrow as much as any Tiger fan and have praised his signing as a program changing stroke of luck.
Unfortunately we didn’t put a system around him to maximize his abilities, and the QB room looks absolutely typical for LSU once he leaves.
LSU would have been a disaster last year without Meyer’s QB, and it will be the same going into 2020 unless we can run the ball with the talent O brought in at RB this year.
So the “passing offense” you’re selling is something that O certainly better step up his work on if that was indeed his “charge” as you claim.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 9:20 am
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