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re: Coach O Is Crushing It

Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:48 am to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:48 am to
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Lol. Either of you guys have the cahoonas to be more specific? Record year how? Record year in a program that's one multiple nattys based on an elite running game and defense? Or, record year compared to other teams that pass the ball for a living?


At the Natty level, you have to be solid at pass & run. In the old days one was enough (usually run).
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 12:49 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:50 am to
So like LSU passing record? 3340+ yards passing? Over 28 TDS?
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:51 am to
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At the Natty level, you have to be solid at pass & run. Maybe in the old days one was enough.



Ok, so to be clear - you guys are on board with holding O accountable to teams that pass at a "natty" level then correct?

That involves teams such as Oklahoma, Alabama and Clemson correct?

I'm onboard with that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:51 am to
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Lol. Either of you guys have the cahoonas to be more specific? Record year how?


Ive listed my ideas many many times.

3400+ yards passing
2700 yards rushing

Set the record for total yards in a season





This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 12:53 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:52 am to
Yep in the new age of college football the old recipe of great run game and stout D just won’t win it anymore. The playoff system has really changed everything. Back in the day if you got the right schedule you could win out that old way and just muster up 1 big game and steal a title but now with essentially 3 playoff games you must have a QB.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 12:53 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70451 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:53 am to
Please ban bet me on those numbers.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79395 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:53 am to
You’ve upped the passing yards

That’s actually a bold prediction, and I respect that

This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 12:54 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:54 am to
quote:

So like LSU passing record? 3340+ yards passing? Over 28 TDS?


probably something similar to that should work... with the rest of the units hitting on all 8 cylinders
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 12:55 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:55 am to
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you guys are on board with holding O accountable


Your biggest issue is this is all you ever care about

People like Ree own your head.

The HC is always responsible. I've posted it in this thread that his job depends on the offense being more productive
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:56 am to
The fundamental problem that makes it the Same Ole LSU is that the Offensive product on the field does not match the Talent. LSU's conservative philosophy of "DBU and Defenses win Championships" is not modern football. Saban said he could win the SEC with great Offenses and adequate Defenses....4yrs ago.








The SECw & SEC landscape is much different from 2015 after so many SEC Coaching Changes. There are LSU/ALA-Saban era Coaches everywhere you look.

The only remaining Coach to have beaten Saban is Malzahn who beat Saban and Smart in 2017. Fisher and Smart were competitive and Malzahn always rebounds

O has the 3rd longest tenure in the West and the avg Tenure is less than 4 yrs for ONE reason: You have to be competitive with ALA.

Freeze, who was hired by O at Ole Miss, beat Saban in 2014, 2015 and OM was ranked #3 in 2014 when Miles won 10-7. Defenses and Offenses were stronger. Alleva not keeping Chavis in 2014 and falling from the Top of the SEC/FBS to the middle under Kevin Steele was a significant factor in 2015.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:56 am to
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You’ve upped the passing yards


I think the new coach will have us throwing more to the backs and some RPOs, so yes.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70451 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:57 am to
The league is super weak right now, if he can’t get it done in this environment he’ll never do it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79395 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:58 am to
Ok, let me ask you this.

Do you think we are going to make RPOs a staple of the offense? I’d like to see it, and this is sorta what E said he wanted to do last year when he was hired.

But it just didn’t materialize this year.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32130 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:59 am to
For me, we have to beat Bama. That's the first thing. He has all the talent he needs to do it.


2. We have to be in contention to win either the west or the SEC overall. That's what I want to see.


Enough of this, he did this at Ole Miss (not saying you brought it up) and he did this and Troy and all that stuff.....

This is what he needs to do. This season. No more of this "but next season..... then it's on...."


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:59 am to
quote:

Do you think we are going to make RPOs a staple of the offense?


I said long ago that the new passing game coordinator would do just that.

He will also work quite a bit with the QBs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:01 am to
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This is what he needs to do. This season. No more of this "but next season..... then it's on....


You know what man, bold predictions get more blowback from the negas that "excuses" do.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79395 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:02 am to
So what happened this year?

It always felt like to me we had an idea of what we wanted to do, and then ignored that idea and just tried to put together an NFL/Pro Style staff

Craggy makes sense because he a lot of zone with Denver, but Sullivan is an old school NFL WR coach, who only ever called plus in the early 2000s

And what was E supposed to bring to the table?

Are we basically giving E a easy exit and this young guy a little
Nor experience on the way in?
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 1:04 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32130 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:03 am to
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You know what man, bold predictions get more blowback from the negas that "excuses" do.



I'm not following what you mean here.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:04 am to
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It always felt like to me we had an idea of what we wanted to do, and then ignored that idea and just tried to put together an NFL/Pro Style staff


The idea to "build a whole new offense" wasn't handled right imo.

I have a tough time putting all of it on Ensminger, it was Orgerons directive.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:06 am to
quote:

Do you think we are going to make RPOs a staple of the offense?
Probably RPO's - possibly some other quick-hitter scheme.

LSU will need some good bounces to beat Bama in -19 (possible though). But in '20 & 21, LSu should gain significantly if they keep developing the pass game (I believe they will)
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