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re: Coach Mainieri's comments after the game

Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296165 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:42 pm to
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tied at five with the winning run on 2nd.


Swing away with a runner on second? All day, every day. That wasn't the case last night.
Posted by jacoblee
pineville
Member since Jun 2013
75 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:44 pm to
Ok, rephrase. Had Cresse grounded into somthng akin to what Raph did, runner on third, with two down. Then an out. What reaction would the rant have been?
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Percentages say ss covers 2b when lhb at plate. Who was your coach?
no offense, but it's pointless to have a serious conversation about the intricacies of baseball at a high level with someone who doesn't even know that the person covering on a steal changes each pitch 90% of the time. #open mouth...closed mouth
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:49 pm to
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Go back to page 11 and read through before you bring this bullshite in here


I'm not reading that shite. Tell me why you disagree? The pitcher was no where near the zone. A hit and run risks the chance of raph being forced to swing at a bad pitch and either hit the ball in the air, or swing through it and get Katz thrown out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296165 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

Ok, rephrase. Had Cresse grounded into somthng akin to what Raph did, runner on third, with two down. Then an out. What reaction would the rant have been?


A runner on second is in scoring position, a runner on first isn't. Also, was there a runner on first? I don't remember. If not, no risk of a DP.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69542 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:52 pm to
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Stanford, bottom of the 9th, tied at five with runners on 1st and 2nd Skip allows a 1-12 Cresse to swing away with no one out. Where were the skip haters???


So much fail with this.

1. Game was tied
2. 1 out
3. RISP
4. Cresse is a true power hitter and probably never bunted in his life.
5. No one bunts the leading RBI guy with one out and RISP
Posted by jacoblee
pineville
Member since Jun 2013
75 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:52 pm to
What would Skip do? 2-0, infield drawn in, the defending ncaa batting champ at the plate........... Hindsight is perfect, I agree with the green light
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:53 pm to
I did, between pages 11 and 25.

But a 2-0 count with a contact hitter at the plate and an opportunity for runners at the corners and no outs is why you choose the hit and run over the bunt with one out and runner on second.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:54 pm to
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1. Game was tied
2. 1 out
3. RISP
4. Cresse is a true power hitter and probably never bunted in his life.
5. No one bunts the leading RBI guy with one out and RISP
6. That was Rosenblatt
7. The ball could still leave TDA with those bats.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69542 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:56 pm to
And we played gorilla ball...no one bunted
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296165 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

What would Skip do?


Last night? Probably what most coaches would have done and what coach PM started to do...
Posted by Iam4LSUnTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Dec 2011
627 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:56 pm to
Right call for the situation...just really bad luck. You have to expect a strike thrown in that situation from a pitcher who throws strikes.. Only reason he was 2-0 in the count was just missing painting the plate with first 2 pitches.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

What would Skip do? 2-0, infield drawn in, the defending ncaa batting champ at the plate
Skip did not like to bunt at all (also a product of the times I'm sure). So I don't doubt that he might have called for the hit & run.
I can say that if Skip would have called a hit & run and Rhymes hit a sharp ground ball to 3B, he would not have thought that he failed.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:59 pm to
The problem with the hit and run is that there is a much higher chance of something going wrong.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30471 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:00 pm to
There were no outs when Cresse was up.

The other poster should be asking why he didn't bunt Fontenot with a runner on first and nobody out. And Skip's answer was Fontenot could have hit a ball in the gap and won it there.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:01 pm to
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Good gamble. Didn't work out. That's just baseball.


I like the hit and run there with Raph up and 2-0 count.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69542 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:01 pm to
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Only reason he was 2-0 in the count was just missing painting the plate with first 2 pitches.


Wow just wow. He wasn't even close on the first 2 to rhymes and Katz hit one that a lefty would have been jumping out of the way of.

Why not trust your best contact hitter to work the count? Maybe he draws a walk. Maybe had the bunt still been on he would have missed outside again. As a guy who used to pitch a hitter showing bunt sometimes gets you out of rhythm.
Posted by jacoblee
pineville
Member since Jun 2013
75 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

2. 1 out


So Much Fail with this

Premise was based on the situation. Get your shite right.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:02 pm to
There is a higher risk/reward, for sure. The situation made it a possibility. It didn't work. Anyone saying its a terrible decision and never should have been considered is only looking at the play in hindsight and/or has no idea how baseball is played.
Posted by jacoblee
pineville
Member since Jun 2013
75 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:02 pm to
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