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re: Coach Mainieri's comments after the game
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:24 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:24 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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When you are the home team and you are down by 1 run you play for the tie. That is a fundamental of baseball.
Actually that's a common misconception that most idiots confuse with football logic. You play for the tie at home in football because in OT, you always have the crowd involved, which is usually not much the case in baseball.
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:24 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:25 pm to moneyg
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and I'm not saying it was CLEARLY the right decision. I'm saying it was CLEARLY a reasonable decision.
x infinity
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:26 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I didn't say anything about home runs. It was simply the wrong call. That was not the spot be aggressive. Bunting is playing for the tie. The hit and run 7 times out of ten probably gets the runner to second at least. Having runners in the corners is way to much of a log shot to make that gamble. Don't get me wrong, if it would have worked I would have been happy with RR for pulling it Off but I still would have thought it was the wrong call. I'm sorry. In that situation the call is always the sac bunt.
Youre wrong buddy.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:26 pm to moneyg
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You are being dishonest with yourself if you think one decision has a significantly greater chance of success than the other.
I have no idea how proficient Raph is as a bunter but laying down a bunt and executing a successful hit and run are not equal undertakings.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I've seen you post before, you're smarter than that.
I don't know what you disagree with? The facts back up that it's basically a 50/50 type of decision.
Please explain.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:27 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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and I'm not saying it was CLEARLY the right decision. I'm saying it was CLEARLY a reasonable decision.
x infinity
infinity and one!!!
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:27 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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That doesn't make it a bad decision to hit and run.
I don't have a problem with the decision to hit and run. I have a problem with RR execution. I really think he sahould have taken a strike also. Even though Katz swung and got on the guy was no where near the strike zone.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:27 pm to dnm3305
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Actually that's a common misconception that most idiots confuse with football logic. You play for the tie at home in football because in OT, you always have the crowd involved, which is usually not much the case in baseball.
Holy crap. Baseball fundi 101. You play for the tie when you're the home team. No need to reconstruct what's been a baseball basic for 100 years.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:28 pm to Topwater Trout
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I don't have a problem with the decision to hit and run. I have a problem with RR execution.
This is how everyone needs to approach this.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:29 pm to Topwater Trout
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I don't have a problem with the decision to hit and run. I have a problem with RR execution. I really think he sahould have taken a strike also. Even though Katz swung and got on the guy was no where near the strike zone.
Well there's one problem with that, when you put the hit and run on, the batter is forced to swing no matter what (but im sure you already knew that). If he only would have gotten a fastball on the outside corner to hit the other way...
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:29 pm to moneyg
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You are being dishonest with yourself if you think one decision has a significantly greater chance of success than the other. Any 50/50 call is gambling. He was gambling either way. He chose to "gamble" via the hit and run with Rhymes than relying on Ibarra and PH.
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moneyg
It was a run and hit not hit and run.Please note the sac bunts in previous games.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:30 pm to moneyg
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and I'm not saying it was CLEARLY the right decision. I'm saying it was CLEARLY a reasonable decision.
It was reasonable for a classic hit and run. We didn't see that however.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:30 pm to dnm3305
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Well there's one problem with that, when you put the hit and run on, the batter is forced to swing no matter what (but im sure you already knew that). If he only would have gotten a fastball on the outside corner to hit the other way...
he did!
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:30 pm to Holden Caulfield
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Holy crap. Baseball fundi 101. You play for the tie when you're the home team. No need to reconstruct what's been a baseball basic for 100 years
You play to the situation. Please tell me why you play for the tie whether youre home team or not. What advantage does that give you?
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:31 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:so you would have rathered he take the pitch & Katz get thrown out stealing?
I don't have a problem with the decision to hit and run. I have a problem with RR execution. I really think he sahould have taken a strike also. Even though Katz swung and got on the guy was no where near the strike zone.
or are you saying take a pitch with no steal there?
That pitch was right down the dick...good pitch to H&R.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:31 pm to Bernie Moore
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he did!
No shite. Which means that CPM guessed right (who woulda frickin thought, a fastball in a 2-0 count) and the blame should be placed on Rhymes not executing and not on CPM not bunting.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:32 pm to Bernie Moore
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Bernie Moore
Since nobody else will tell you, you don't immediately assume every thing you read on the internet is true. Just think about that before you rush to respond.
ETA dnm3305, he isn't familiar with sarcasm on the internet
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:33 pm to dnm3305
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Actually that's a common misconception that most idiots confuse with football logic. You play for the tie at home in football because in OT, you always have the crowd involved, which is usually not much the case in baseball.
You're the idiot bud. Its got nothing to do with football. They weren't even at "home", the home team gets to bat last. I assume you know that. Thats means you will have the last xhance to win it or tie again in extra innings.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:33 pm to dnm3305
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Please tell me why you play for the tie whether your home team or not. What advantage does that give you?
Because all you have to do is extend the game. Playing for one run is a far easier undertaking than trying to win it all when you don't have too.
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