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re: Coach Mainieri says LSU fans will hate the new "dead" bats

Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:46 pm to
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Chris Jakubauskas of the Pittsburgh Pirates
You realize that was with a wood bat, right?
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Marc Rzepczynski of the Toronto Blue Jays suffered a broken finger
Wood bat.
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New York Yankees' Damaso Marte was hit in the lower back
Wood bat.
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after Marin High School pitcher Gunnar Sandberg
High school.

In all of your examples, there were only two college players injured where metal bats were used. Do you know for a fact the new dead bats would have prevented either injury?

And if only two college players were injured out of the thousands of games played last year, is that really a justification to alter the way the game is played?

What is your point and what is your agenda?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:47 pm to
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I don't have to prove what I know
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:47 pm to
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No, you don't.


Did YOU know that between 1991 and 2001 there were 17 players killed by batted balls?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:50 pm to
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I don't have to prove what I know


Take that shite to the Poliboard and start a thread on religion.

You apparently don't know that they use wood bats in the majors. But I guess I don't have to prove that, look it up.
This post was edited on 10/19/10 at 9:51 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:50 pm to
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Did YOU know that between 1991 and 2001 there were 17 players killed by batted balls?


care to elaborate on this quote?

or should i?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133496 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:51 pm to
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It's actually an issue the softball people are addressing too. Starting this year the pitching rubber will be backed up 3 feet.
No, starting NEXT year, the pitching rubber will be moved back 3 feet. And the issue was NOT the safety of the pitcher, but to create more offense in order to increase fan interest.

Get your facts straight.

Again, I ask, what is your agenda?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:52 pm to
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In all of your examples, there were only two college players injured where metal bats were used. Do you know for a fact the new dead bats would have prevented either injury?
Course not but I do know the pop the bats on the market have are too hot and the reaction time is decreased a lot. Apparently many others agree too; hence the rule change, also in HS softball.

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And if only two college players were injured out of the thousands of games played last year, is that really a justification to alter the way the game is played?
There aren't "thousands" of college pitchers but if I'm the parent of the only one to get seriously injured then it's worth it imo.

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What is your point and what is your agenda?
Safety. No kid should die from playing a freaking GAME.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54838 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:52 pm to
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Did YOU know that between 1991 and 2001 there were 17 players killed by batted balls?



No, I did not know that. I guess I need to do my homework! Are we talking in the USA? HIgh school, college, MLB? All levels? Actually, I'd prefer not to do any homework.
Posted by Pianoman
New Iberia
Member since Dec 2003
2874 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:53 pm to
Wow, political correctness is now ruining baseball just like its ruining the rest of the country. If you want to be real safe just don't play sports! How about we just don't keep score anymore either and everybody can be winners.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54838 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:54 pm to
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Again, I ask, what is your agenda?



I think he is encouraging people to do homework. Not a bad thing.
Posted by Deathvalley71
Dallas
Member since Oct 2004
1063 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:54 pm to
Alot of what you have mentioned below is with wooden bats, people are always going to be hit with line drives, always have, always will. Would you like them to start using plastic bats because that will make it safer. How about we wrap everyone in bubblewrap. How about we go to touch football because of concusions. I'm not making light of the injuries that you have stated, but they are just a part of baseball. You have a pitcher throwing in the 90s and if you make good contact the ball is coming off at crazy speed, you don't have much time to react. Balls come off wooden bats almost the same as metal, its just with metal you have a much larger sweet spot. People have been getting hit with line drives since baseball started, it's not going to change, you can't manage everything.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78435 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:54 pm to
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The second question is tougher to answer. Even though aluminum bats have been widely used since the 1970s, there is scant evidence one way or the other about whether they've added danger to the game. Statistics, particularly on the high school level, on batted ball injuries are hard to come by because, officials say, there isn't an adequate injury reporting system. Further, what statistics are available are incomplete. For example, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission found that between 1991 and 2001 there were 17 players killed by batted balls. But while eight involved metal bats and two involved wood bats, in seven instances the kind of bat wasn't known.


LINK
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133496 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:55 pm to
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Did YOU know that between 1991 and 2001 there were 17 players killed by batted balls?
Link?

And also, how many of those were college players who would not have been killed if the new dead bats were used. Seventeen deaths, while tragic, is not exactly an epidemic over 11 years.

What is your agenda in this thread? Do you go to college baseball games and you're afraid you will be hurt sitting in the stands? Do you know someone who got hurt by a batted ball in a college baseball game?

Why are you here?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:55 pm to
Good, maybe now we can get back to real baseball. And to those thinking that safety isn't the issue, you should try throwing BP just to 11 year olds these days. The ball comes off the bat like a missile with those bats that have a trampoline effect. Without a doubt, the bats need to be taken down a notch.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:58 pm to
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No, starting NEXT year, the pitching rubber will be moved back 3 feet. And the issue was NOT the safety of the pitcher, but to create more offense in order to increase fan interest.
Fail.

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Get your facts straight.

It's you who needs to tighten up. Safety of the pitcher was ALSO a reason. Why you think so many have had to start wearing face guards on the mound AND at the corners?

Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78435 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:58 pm to
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Good, maybe now we can get back to real baseball.


i, like a lot of people, love college baseball and hate MLB. MLB is a dying sport in america, why make college baseball more like it?

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Without a doubt, the bats need to be taken down a notch.


Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:58 pm to
The rare times I actually watch baseball will be even less now. The attraction of college baseball is offense.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:01 pm to
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The other two incidents that month served as striking reminders of just how dangerous baseball — and, yes, softball — can be. On March 26, 15-year-old Kristi Denny was pitching for her El Toro (Calif.) High School softball team when a line drive caved in her forehead and orbital bone. Denny reportedly kept repeating, "My head's inside my head," before asking her mother if she was going to die. The injury likely would have been fatal, according to her doctors, had Denny not been wearing face protection — a device called GameFace — at the time. As it was, a new forehead was fashioned out of titanium mesh during a six-hour surgical procedure.

This season, several high schools nationwide have switched to a pitching distance of 43 feet for girls' fast-pitch softball. Denny, who is not likely to play softball again, delivered her last pitch from a rubber located 40 feet from home plate, and her forward momentum brought her closer still to the batter at the moment of contact.


Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54838 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:01 pm to
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i, like a lot of people, love college baseball and hate MLB. MLB is a dying sport in america, why make college baseball more like it?



I absolutely love college baseball. I don't hate MLB, but don't have the passion for it like college baseball. It is not because of the bats though. It is because of the huge salaries, free agency, etc and all that goes with that stuff.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44728 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:02 pm to
I like more the strategy of baseball than teams just putting together a bunch of fat kids hitting glorified pop ups for home runs.
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