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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line

Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:39 am to
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Pocic was a OL under Miles in his last year. Was not an OL under O in 17’. 



No shite.
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Clapp was a program player. Nothing more. 


See rodge? A player drafted isnt top tier cfb olinemen.

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Even if you want to act like he was all world, what the frick else did Miles leave along the OL? You gonna act like KJ Malone was Jonathan Ogden too?


Brumsfield was all sec. Whose fault is it for the regressionm

Also, youre shitting on getting left more nfl olineman draft picks than clemson has had since 2009.

I love it that you never know when youre already beat.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:42 am to
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So did Les. 


Show me where i said Miles didnt inherit talent?

O inherited a roster that everyone had in their top 5 and still to this day you wont find anyone that gets paid to evaluate talent that doesnt think lsu is one of the most talented teams in cfb.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:42 am to
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Great play calling helps offset a weak OL. Lawrence zipped those balls within 3 seconds because of the play calling and ability to read coverages.


Ding ding ding. Somebody gets it. It doesn’t always work but it’s the only way to challenge Alabama. The shite we have been trying for the past 7 years has proven ineffective
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164326 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:42 am to
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Still trying to fix the mess Miles left along the ol

Before next season can we sit down and come up with the talking points and excuses we’ll be able to use in December? They were made up on the fly this season.

The goal posts were moved this season after the loss to Alabama. Before the Alabama game everyone said LSU is the team that can match Alabama. After the game it was LSU doesn’t have the talent.

These excuses didn’t exist in August and didn’t become a thing until Alabama beat LSU 29-0.
Posted by Tiger2424
Member since Nov 2015
1203 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:42 am to
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Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:43 am to
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The proof is in the results. Bamas defensive line pushed LSU'S lineman off the ball into the backfield.


That’s because our offense is unimaginative and isn’t a serious threat to score. Saban has been knowing this for years so they tee off on us. It’s been said in multiple anonymous coaches quotes every year in the offseason



I guess that makes sense in your head but this doesn't explain bamas dominance at the line of scrimmage.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:43 am to
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Great play calling helps offset a weak OL


I totally agree, but Clemsons OL isn't weak
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:45 am to
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guess that makes sense in your head but this doesn't explain bamas dominance at the line of scrimmage.


Sure it does. If I know what you are going to do every play and I’m not concerned that you can beat me through the air you don’t think that’s an advantage? Lol
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:45 am to
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These excuses didn’t exist in August and didn’t become a thing until Alabama beat LSU 29-0.


Just like no one on this site considered lsu to be, even remotely, a rebuild until our staff herp derped their way into historic losses in 2017.

Hell Rodger the shrubber said Troy was more talented than lsu in an attempt to explain away the loss.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:47 am to
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These excuses didn’t exist in August


No shite. We hadn't played a single game and weren't sure what we had offensively.

But this isn't Miles mess.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278577 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:47 am to
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Yea, so were Weathersby, Okeke, Magee, and Brown in our 2015 class. And Savage and Willie Allen in 2016.

So, again, what is Orgeron doing differently than Miles to build our tackles?



What exactly do you want me to tell you right now?

Those guys haven’t played a snap yet.

To just assume they will be like the other guys is ignorant.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:48 am to
Its one thing to make excuses. It’s another thing to make blatantly absurd excuses like the reason we can’t score against Bama is because we don’t have true tackle talent.

All the teams that scored on Bama this year, did they have better talent at Tackle than LSU?

Try to answer that honestly
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:48 am to
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guess that makes sense in your head but this doesn't explain bamas dominance at the line of scrimmage



What explains Southeastern dominating us for an entire half ben?
If scheme isnt our issue then how does that happen?
How does vastly inferior teams shut us down for huge stretches of games?


The fact that you actually believe lawrence had all day to throw proves you either dont know what youre seeing during the game or are bald face lying.

Using my past experience with you i know which one im picking.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:48 am to
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this doesn't explain bamas dominance at the line of scrimmage.


They just physically dominated. Tossed our guys like rag dolls.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:49 am to
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InB4 you say their o-line is older.


Experience and development can trump talent
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278577 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:49 am to
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Before next season can we sit down and come up with the talking points and excuses we’ll be able to use in December? They were made up on the fly this season.


My talking points haven’t changed in 2 years & they’ve all just about been right on point.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22158 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:50 am to
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What exactly do you want me to tell you right now?

Those guys haven’t played a snap yet.

To just assume they will be like the other guys is ignorant.




I agree, but don't you think we should sign a few more this year in case those guys don't work out? Wouldn't that be the prudent thing to do?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:52 am to
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Its one thing to make excuses. It’s another thing to make blatantly absurd excuses like the reason we can’t score against Bama is because we don’t have true tackle talent. 

All the teams that scored on Bama this year, did they have better talent at Tackle than LSU? 

Try to answer that honestly





The weird part is most of the people explaininh it away are the same people that constantly said Miles scheme was holding us back. They were right then so i dont understand why they think its so pit of the ordinary now. We dont run a spread. I cant recall going 4 wide in any serious spot in a game. Pur rpo had no p. We ran playaction from under center when no one respected pur run game.

I mean i could take their stance serious of we didnt struggle on offense against shite teams.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:52 am to
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My talking points haven’t changed in 2 years & they’ve all just about been right on point.


If you don't shite on something you're a sycophant who is obviously being paid by Orgeron to post here

This is the level of delusion on this board.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:54 am to
Trout..


No that we finished top 6. Does miles get credit for this year? I know your stance on 05-07. I was wondering if youre gonna stay consistent.
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