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re: Clemson's coordinators opened up about the loss to LSU in the NC game

Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:31 pm to
People on here won't realize how much LSU dominated Clemson. They could have scored at least two more tds but didn't.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:36 pm to
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If you read the OP and came away thinking they said LSU got lucky, that's a you problem. Your comprehension is pretty lacking if that's what you got out of it.


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For all the good that we did, we were on the wrong side of it against a really, really hot team
Not a good team. A hot team. A team that, but for being hot (i.e. lucky), would've lost to the far superior Clemson Tigers.

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And there were some missed plays. Had a couple third down passes that were batted. One screen play, it was a one-score game, and if we make that block then Travis is going to go score

But you didn't. The way this is worded isn't, LSU fought through the block and stopped the play, it's "we failed to execute at our normal level." It's again, hey, if we played tomorrow, we'd win because these things would bounce our way.

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We played great in the red zone all year and had our worst game.
Again, attributing the loss to their bad play and not LSU winning their assignments.

So luck, a bad day, whatever, the coaches are downplaying the manner in which they got their heads kicked in rather than saying, "Well, look, we played one of the best teams in college football history. Those blocks we normally make were fought through by them and they made plays. Their playmakers were faster than we anticipated and so we came underneath blocks instead of over them."

I don't think I'm reaching by saying they're basically saying, "We played a bad game and but for a couple bad bounces, we win the game."
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:36 pm to
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how about us missing a TD on the DPI on chase that was NOT called? mercy knee at end? we shoulda won by 14 more than we did.


How about the refs taking a Clemson TD off the board with a bad PI call? It went both ways. I thought it was a very poorly officiated game, but no advantage to either team.

Clemson dominated the start of both halves. They scored to go up 17-7 with 10:38 left in the second quarter. Then they were winning the third quarter 7-0 until LSU started their TD drive with about 7 minutes left in the 3rd. That means Clemson dominated the game for 26 1/2 minutes, and LSU dominated for 33 1/2 minutes. I think the score was very representative of what happened on the field.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:39 pm to
And if LSU wanted to they could have made the score look like the OU game. They were in that much control.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:40 pm to
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Shut up.


Why? Because I said our online fanbase, not the least of which is showcased on this forum that is just fricking filled with MENSA members, is immature and unsophisticated? Have you seen the ranting and raving about Will Wade on here? frick. LSU's online fanbase and, in fact, its in person fanbase are absolutely godawful. And I love LSU. Most fans of LSU are just batshit fricking crazy. Same is true of most major sports programs. LSU just happens to be near the top of the heap of dipshits.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:41 pm to
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but for being hot (i.e. lucky)

"Hot" does not imply "lucky".
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:44 pm to
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What could they have seen in their scouting to tell them 2019 LSU would not panic down 14 points?

Well we were down 14 to 3 against UCF the year before without the prolific offense of this year and didn't panic. And the team showed up every time in clutch situations, whether they were up or down.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Hot" does not imply "lucky".


How would you characterize it in that context, Penrod?
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:47 pm to
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And if LSU wanted to they could have made the score look like the OU game. They were in that much control.


That is incorrect. OU never had control or momentum in that game. Clemson dominated about 44% of the championship game. During that time, Clemson outscored LSU 24-7. Clemson was a far better team than OU, and in no universe could LSU have beaten Clemson like we did OU.

Sure, you could argue that LSU could have scored at the end of the game, and Chase could have caught that TD. But Chase did not catch that TD, and it was a very difficult catch to make. If you're going to open up that box, then Clemson could say what if Trevor had not overthrown all of those guys.
Posted by tigertex1992
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:52 pm to
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"Hot" does not imply "lucky".


No it doesn’t but it does belittle what Oregeron has accomplished. They seem to think “the balls just started falling our way” rather than acknowledge that this was the result of a longer term, purposely constructed effort with many layers to it...which would force them to admit our program overall is better.

Anyway, doesn’t matter. We don’t need them trying figure out what we’re doing at the program level. Let them keep thinking we were simply “on a roll”.
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Once post season hit, no one was stopping this team.


The other teams knew it too.

The other coaches were crying and whining about how they should be the #1 seed for the playoffs. Oh BOO HOO!!!!

The other team's players watch SportsCenter to see how great they are, only to see the LSU players saying shite like:
"Look, we'll play anybody anywhere," said LSU quarterback and SEC title game MVP Joe Burrow, who threw for 349 yards and four touchdowns and rushed for another 41 yards. "You can take us to Canada, and we'll play on a gravel lot. It doesn't matter where or who we play."


Then the damn LSU coach comes on and says:
"Tonight wasn't our final destination," Orgeron said. "We know that. We don't know where we're going to go. We don't know who we're going to play. Wherever they tell us to go, whoever they tell us to play, we'll be ready to go."
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:52 pm to
Don’t forget the chainsaw penis
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:54 pm to
You’re looking to be offended.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 12:59 pm to
You can say what you want but the whole 4th quarter we were to inning the ball after the TD. We could have scored at least two more TDS in the 4th. That could have made the score looking like the OU score. However when a team like LSU was able to run the ball almost the whole 4th with a lead is domination.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Not a good team. A hot team. A team that, but for being hot (i.e. lucky), would've lost to the far superior Clemson Tigers.
You're reaching and, again, seeing things that don't really exist.

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But you didn't.
Because you've never in your life said, "Man, had we not dropped that pass, we would have had a TD" right?

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The way this is worded isn't, LSU fought through the block and stopped the play, it's "we failed to execute at our normal level." It's again, hey, if we played tomorrow, we'd win because these things would bounce our way.
Again, reaching and you're insinuating things that weren't said or even hinted at honestly.

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"Well, look, we played one of the best teams in college football history. Those blocks we normally make were fought through by them and they made plays. Their playmakers were faster than we anticipated and so we came underneath blocks instead of over them."

I don't think I'm reaching by saying they're basically saying, "We played a bad game and but for a couple bad bounces, we win the game."
You're also looking at bits and pieces of quotes from likely much more being said. Do you know that he did NOT say any of that?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:24 pm to
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Can't leave AU off of that short list.


True, but we kicked, what, 3 FGs from inside the 10 or 15 in that game.

Just goes to show that we were our own worst enemy in not making the score even more obscene in a lot of these games.

But, Auburn had the best recipe for countering us up front, no doubt - with better DBs, they might have eeked out a win.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:28 pm to
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"Hot" does not imply "lucky".


I agree, although "Hot" is underselling it.

With a little perspective, now that the season is getting behind us, I'm just going to go ahead and say it - on their best day, the 2019 LSU Tigers would handle, easily, any team in CFB history.

As it is, they were unbeatable during their worst games.

Posted by WhoDatNC
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:38 pm to
Clemsons problem is that they were a donkey vs a thoroughbred in a horserace. Simply were not on our level.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:43 pm to
I remember Shannon Sharpe’s summation after the game talking to Skip on ESPN the day after the game saying Clemson tried to hide their best corner. Get that, hide their best corner.....And when LSU figured their scheme, no one else could be hidden; it was over. Said Chase dropped another and LSU took a knee on the five; it wasn’t close....
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:53 pm to
They would have had to kill us to beat us..
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