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re: Chris Garrett leaving the football team

Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:08 am to
Posted by ANAKINSKY
colorado
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:08 am to
This could wind up hurting RS the most, if we have injuries, then he would have to take focus away from the WR position and start doing some emergency training at QB. Even if Zach Lee were thrust into the spot because of injuries at #1 and #2, then RS would have to be moved back to QB as an emergency back up.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Get this, college players tend to improve as they age. Garrett is entering his redshirt freshman season. I don't care so much about the impact this year, but he was going to be the starter in his junior year. Now, we've got nobody. That's bad.


Add this to the fact that ever report on this issue states that Garrett wasn't being given adequate reps in the Spring and barely saw the field in the Spring Game (I told my father that I thought that was odd while we were watching the game.)

It's just more evidence of Crowten and Miles inability to develop players and prepare young players for future roles.

Now, these two are placing all their future hopes in a 18 year-old kid, who has never taken a snap at the college level, and may not even end up on campus.
Posted by Fat Boy
Mr. Gatti's Buffet
Member since Nov 2007
70 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:11 am to
He can't beat out Barrett Bailey and will go to Stephen F. Austin. No big loss.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:12 am to
Always the coaches fault aye?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162928 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Get this, college players tend to improve as they age.


and many don't.

Our staff obviously felt they had seen enough to decide he wasn't our QB of the future. I mean do you honestly think they'd cut a guy who they felt confident would be the starter in 2 years? Really?
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62715 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Get this, college players tend to improve as they age.


Get this--you don't have to tell me that as I've been arguing the exact same thing in favor of both Lee and Jefferson the last 2 years. But this dude appears to be 5th on the depth chart(behind a walk-on and true Freshman) at a school without great QB depth. I'll sleep fine tonight.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79943 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:14 am to
He's at least a body though man

WTF happens if lee plays baseball? Garrett might suck, but I'd rather him over Barrett Bailey
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Always the coaches fault aye?


How many examples do some fans need before they'll start to realize that we have a serious problem with developing players on the offense side of the ball?
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:16 am to
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and many don't.

And you can't tell the differnece between the two before their redshirt freshman year. this is terrible roster management. If a guy gets a shot and can't hack it, fine. but making a decision so early in a guy's career is foolhardy.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
62715 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:17 am to
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Garrett might suck, but I'd rather him over Barrett Bailey


Even if Bailey is clearly better? Just because he's a walkon? Do you know how fricking stupid that is? There are plenty of former walkons playing in the NFL. Once they're all on campus, who gives a shite. Shouldn't matter if they're a 1-star walkon or the #1 rated QB in the country. The best should play.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162928 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:18 am to
quote:

WTF happens if lee plays baseball?


Obviously both parties are confident that isn't going to happen.

quote:

I'd rather him over Barrett Bailey


Based on what? That he's a walk on? If he was passing CG on the depth chart than he's probably better. Pretty sure both were 3 stars coming out, I could be wrong.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Get this--you don't have to tell me that as I've been arguing the exact same thing in favor of both Lee and Jefferson the last 2 years.


Right, and they've each regressed. So why is so difficult to believe that Crowten and Miles may have seriously mishandled Garrett's development?

quote:

But this dude appears to be 5th on the depth chart(behind a walk-on and true Freshman) at a school without great QB depth.


He was 3rd string. Miles told him he'd have to compete with Zach Lee to stay 3rd string and that "things weren't working out for him at LSU."

Garrett's responsed about his lack of reps during the spring - and he has a valid point.


Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89074 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:19 am to
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Our staff obviously felt they had seen enough to decide he wasn't our QB of the future. I mean do you honestly think they'd cut a guy who they felt confident would be the starter in 2 years? Really?


You're forgetting who you're talking about here.

It's not like this staff has exactly wowed anybody w/ their talent evaluation skills over the past couple of years.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:19 am to
Like who?
Oh nevermind you mean two young (at the time.)starters at the hardest position on the field

No excuses after this year though
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162928 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:20 am to
They have a much larger sample size to make that call than you and I do though. We have a few snaps from a scrimmage and some HS film.

You can see from my initial responses in this thread I was pretty shocked, but I'm guessing they have their reasons.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:20 am to
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If he was passing CG on the depth chart than he's probably better.


In 21 pages, this somehow became fact, even though its about as far from the truth as one can be. Garrett was 3rd string and was told that he would be competing with Zach Lee, not Bailey. Bailey is an afterthought at this point.


quote:

Pretty sure both were 3 stars coming out, I could be wrong.


Garrett was a 3. Bailey was a 2.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79943 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:21 am to
Garrett appears to have tools and projectability...like I said, he might suck, but let him prove he sucks before casting him off

And Bailey had no other offers, played against shite competition in HS, and will be lucky to take knees in blowouts...and how many of your walk-on NFL superstars played fricking QB??

And since when did Bailey passing Garrett become a stone cold fact anyway?
This post was edited on 7/9/10 at 10:23 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162928 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Garrett appears to have tools and projectability



I think this is why guys are crashing hard
This post was edited on 7/9/10 at 10:23 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Like who?
Oh nevermind you mean two young (at the time.)starters at the hardest position on the field


Lee
Jefferson
Our Offensive Line

So roughly 60% of the offense has regressed under Crowten. At we had Sr. Running Backs and a Sr. Primary receiver last year. Let's see how those positions do this season.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62715 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:24 am to
quote:

In 21 pages, this somehow became fact, even though its about as far from the truth as one can be. Garrett was 3rd string and was told that he would be competing with Zach Lee, not Bailey. Bailey is an afterthought at this point.


Fine, then that just makes Garett look even more scared to compete. Peace out.



And let me just be clear. I am not arguing our QB situation is good or that Miles and staff have done a good job recruiting or developing that position. I am only saying we're no worse off today than yesterday.
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