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re: Check in if you've turned on Orgeron so hard you feel like a different person

Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by Just_Fight_Baby
Haunting the Indian Mounds
Member since Sep 2016
1189 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:50 pm to
When people swear they've changed, they've learned, yaw yaw, and you buy into that only to see the mask pop off - yeah I've turned with a vengeance.

For a man whose staring at a guaranteed $3m + annual salary, with buyouts of $12m, $8.5m, and $6m for the next three years...he sure acts...anxious?

Well, whatever it is, given the fact that the money is essentially guaranteed, a blind man can see that O is not above resorting to doublespeak and diverting blame away from himself, in the same breath he's claiming "sole responsibility" as HC, and "no pointing fingers."

I've seen enough, I imagine most rational people with critical thinking skills have seen enough, too, and now we have to persevere through this situation best we can. His behavior under duress tells me plenty.

But first things first.



Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

He has a winning record in his first year through the first 5 games.


3-2 after BY FAR the easiest stretch on the schedule, with a blowout loss to Mississippi State and and a loss to TROY.

Yeah, that's really a confidence booster.

Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2865 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:52 pm to
Well yeah - I'm right there. I didn't want this hire and now it is turning out to be a shite storm.

And its not like you can rebuild as fast as you can tear down. I want to stay on the top of the hill.
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4313 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:54 pm to
I'd argue with you that fans should get off his arse, but it wouldn't do any good. I hope you're wrong about O and hope he succeeds. Our 2018 recruiting class will make or break this program. I we can bring in a top 10 recruiting class with all the negativity surrounding the program, it will truly be amazing.

If we don't fill several MAJOR needs (OL, DL, RB, WR), then our lines will be shite for many years to come. Shitty lines = shitty play.

O ain't going anywhere for several years. He's not going to resign and LSU can't afford to buy him out on top of Les. You don't have to get on board, just stop trying to sabotage the program for many years to come. 2018's recruiting class is make or break.




Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

I never dismissed it, and maybe this was wishful thinking, but I felt he sincerely saw how he screwed up with that post, dabbled too much and knew how to differently approach the HC position this go around. Plus, his interim records at USC and here were just tossed out the window which I didn't think was fair.


I thought it was a red flag that he seemed to feel he was too good to get a low prestige job to prove that he'd learned. Ok, Syracuse doesn't want you? Go to UTSA, or USD, or a FCS school. I criticize him a lot but he's good enough at what he does to coach somewhere.

It seemed to me as if he felt he was too good to prove his worth at a lower level, when legendary coaches coached at that level before they were great. It's as if he was making an tacit acknowledgement that he doesn't have the goods to succeed without major infrastructure advantages.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:08 pm to
You are dismissing it in your stupid arse post, saying "blah blah blah" as if complaints about O's Ole Miss record was irrelevant and/or tiresome for you to hear. So shut up. It was valid argument that you were too big of an a-hole to consider.

Also, O's interim coaching record is meaningless. Interim coaching is not real head coaching. O didnt do shite - players are always motivated when their head coach gets shite-canned you bumbling a-hole. Those players loved Miles, and played their hearts out when Miles was fired. Figure it out Rantard.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:09 pm to
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He has a winning record in his first year through the first 5 games.

I'll wait to cast my judgment net.


Please be trolling.
Posted by Just_Fight_Baby
Haunting the Indian Mounds
Member since Sep 2016
1189 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:09 pm to
Sabotage?

O is doing that all by himself. Or do you not follow his public statements?
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:09 pm to
i was dumbfounded when it was announced. i decided to give coach o a chance because i didn't have a choice. i root for lsu.

now i find myself wanting coach o gone and wanting lsu to win. i hope ed is gone at the end of the season, but i just can't root against my tigers. felt the same to some degree with miles after 1/9/12, but that's was because of underachieving. orgeron is a complete failure.

i don't feel like a different person, but i hope orgeron is gone at years end.

damnit.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

You are dismissing it in your stupid arse post, saying "blah blah blah" as if complaints about O's Ole Miss record was irrelevant and/or tiresome for you to hea



past tense---------------present tense


it's a journey
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:13 pm to
Yeh right. Well, better listen now dumbass. We told you he sucked. Go check how badly he fricked up at Ole Miss, since you dont know squat.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:16 pm to
frick off





find purpose
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:22 pm to
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So do you guys have a shirt or something? I feel like that's the most anti-O thing you can do.




Definitely have done a 180. It wasn't that we lost to State but how we didn't even look competitive. The Troy loss sealed CEO's fate IMO.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Space Cowboy will come assure you everything is ok


Then expect Madking to come to call you names and accuse you of passing on make believe fake news.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:24 pm to
This team played it's arse off for O last year. I mean, "night and day" doesn't even begin to describe what we're seeing now. Guice was all about O and now he can't be bothered.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35362 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:30 pm to
From here on out, when someone says they've changed their ways but they end up making the same mistakes, it will be known as "pulling an Ed Orgeron".
Posted by Grad75
Westlake
Member since Nov 2015
57 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:33 pm to
Couldn't say it better. That's exactly how I feel
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

This team played it's arse off for O last year. I mean, "night and day" doesn't even begin to describe what we're seeing now. Guice was all about O and now he can't be bothered.


The team would've gone on the same run regardless of who was the coach. Things lined up perfectly for it to appear that O had turned the team around.

The turnaround can be easily explained simply by looking at the win percentage/team statistics of who we played after Auburn.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16927 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:39 pm to
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I've stated this before, I was genuinely upset about the Orgeron hire but was willing to ride it out and support the man. Even bashed the obsessive and often times juvenile bashing he got, broken record responses about his Ole Miss record, blah blah blah.


This is me. We've come late but at least we've come.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:39 pm to
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The team would've gone on the same run regardless of who was the coach. Things lined up perfectly for it to appear that O had turned the team around. The turnaround can be easily explained simply by looking at the win percentage/team statistics of who we played after Auburn.


Here's what people are overlooking with that and I kept pointing it out last season: the teams we were supposed to beat handily..........we were beating handily. Towards the end of Les' tenure his teams had a knack of making games close that had no business being so. Alabama and Florida were obviously disappointing, but we were running teams off the field. I had missed that and it gave me hope that we had the opportunity to make that crucial step towards being a relevant program again.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 2:44 pm
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