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Chase Young shouldn’t be on the same stage as Burrow

Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:07 am
Posted by Cargeaux89
Memphis
Member since Oct 2016
1354 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:07 am
For reference:

Jaylon Ferguson (La Tech, 2018) Total tackles: 65 Tackles for Loss: 26.5 Sacks: 17.5

Chase Young (Ohio St, 2019) Total tackles: 44 Tackles for Loss: 21.0. Sacks: 16.5

Young’s entire Heisman “worthy” season was straight media propaganda. In his two biggest games of the year, Michigan and Big10 championship, total of 6 tackles and 0 sacks. What a monster
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52162 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:09 am to
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In his two biggest games of the year, Michigan and Big10 championship, total of 6 tackles and 0 sacks. What a monster

That’s why he’s not winning it. If he had three sacks in each of those games, and finished with 22.5 he SHOULD win a Heisman.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
24779 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:15 am to
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If he had three sacks in each of those games, and finished with 22.5 he SHOULD win a Heisman.


If my cousin was a dinosaur...


Arguement stands.

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Chase Young shouldn’t be on the same stage as Burrow


It’s too bad for regional bias, Joe should win the heisman by the largest margin ever given his 2019 season compared to anyone else’s. Specify that because I’ve seen media bring up stats from last season. That doesn’t matter one inkling.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:16 am to
Lol Chase Young is a monster and you would be bitching and moaning if he played for LSU and wasn’t a Heisman finalist. I wish we had him on our defense I know that much.

You are a fricking liar if you say you wouldn’t want Young on our defense. Bold faced liar.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 10:36 am
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:18 am to
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If he had three sacks in each of those games, and finished with 22.5 he SHOULD win a Heisman.


not over Burrow Penheadrod.....
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1765 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:33 am to
Frankly I couldn’t care less who else is on that stage. For the first time in 60 years an LSU player is winning the Heisman. If it’s by one vote or by all of the votes he’s still coming home with the Heisman Trophy. I never imagined I’d see an LSU player- let alone a QB win it so I’m just going to enjoy the ride
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Pike Road, AL
Member since Mar 2015
4688 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:47 am to
You really comparing stats of a guy who played in Conference USA to a guy thats in the Big 10?
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 10:55 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42519 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:50 am to
The Heisman has a policy now of inviting at least 3 finalist. The finalists are picked in a very specific manner. Even if Joe got 100% of the first place votes, it’s likely we would have had the same finalists.



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This is one of the most misunderstood parts of the Heisman process. You will often hear media or fans complain that a certain player was snubbed by not being invited to the Heisman ceremony. But the finalists are not determined arbitrarily. Starting from the understanding that there will always be a minimum of three finalists, whether or not more will be invited is determined by how close the fourth-place finisher’s point total is to that of the third place finisher’s, how close the fifth-place finisher’s is to that of the fourth-place finisher’s and so on.

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In other words, the closeness of the point totals determines the final number of finalists. Where major gaps exist, that’s where you get a cutoff.


Posted by Cargeaux89
Memphis
Member since Oct 2016
1354 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:50 am to
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Lol Chase Young is a monster and you would be bitching and moaning if he played for LSU and wasn’t a Heisman finalist.

Why should he be a Heisman finalist? Because he wrecked Cincy, FAU, Miami-(Ohio), Wisconsin, and Penn St.? I would have a better argument that J.K. Dobbins should be up there. Not to mention Young was suspended for 2 games. Give me a break
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33896 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:51 am to
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Young’s entire Heisman “worthy” season was straight media propaganda


Don't you think everyone knows this?

Everyone knows it's Burrow's award. We've been through this, you can't invite just one guy to the damn Heisman ceremony.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8956 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:51 am to
There is a world of difference between “I wish he was on our defense” and “he deserves to be the first defensive player to win the heisman in over 20 years”.

You’re fricking liar if you say you can’t see the difference between those two positions. Bold faced liar.
Posted by GeauxSox24
Member since Mar 2019
68 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:53 am to
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But the finalists are not determined arbitrarily


Don’t tell that to Joel Klatt. He was on twitter complaining about an arbitrary number of finalists
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 10:54 am
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19272 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:54 am to
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You really comparing stats of a guy who played in Conference USA to a guy that in the Big 10?


Considering he was completely neutralized in the conference games that mattered it is certainly a fair comparison. He was only dominant against the teams that were equal level to the Conf USA teams.
Posted by Cargeaux89
Memphis
Member since Oct 2016
1354 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:55 am to
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you can't invite just one guy to the damn Heisman ceremony.

I have zero problem with Hurts and Fields being there. They deserve it. Again, this isn’t about him not being a good player, or that Burrow should be the only one up there. It is simply asking why is Young being considered for the trophy at all?
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:56 am to
I never said he deserves to win it . I’m just saying he deserves to be in New York as a finalist. To say he isn’t one of the best players in college football is a lie and if played for us y’all would be saying he deserves to be there. Burrow absolutely deserves to win the award but Young is one of the best players in the country.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:00 am to
Chase Young numbers are very underwhelming.

He is there to fill a chair.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Pike Road, AL
Member since Mar 2015
4688 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:02 am to
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Considering he was completely neutralized in the conference games that mattered it is certainly a fair comparison. He was only dominant against the teams that were equal level to the Conf USA teams.


He had 11.5 sacks in conference play. Stop being a homer and acting like the guy isn't elite. He'll be the 1st or 2nd guy picked in the draft.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42519 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:03 am to
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Don’t tell that to Joel Klatt.


Why am I not surprised.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6351 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:09 am to
Does it even matter who's up there? They're all there to witness Joe get the Heisman.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32527 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:25 am to
If an LSU player had 21 TFL and 16.5 sacks you would be saying he should be in NY
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