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re: Chancellor Martin: LSU will likely pursue a candidate with Louisiana connections
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:05 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:05 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
So at this point I'm wondering, would most people be willing to rough it out a year and half with BP than to hire a coach likely to fail from day one?
Just curious because people have been willing to take in Drew with any punishments that may follow him for the sake of having a good coach, recruter, and motivator.
Just curious because people have been willing to take in Drew with any punishments that may follow him for the sake of having a good coach, recruter, and motivator.
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:08 pm to Elleshoe
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Ben Voogd (led the 2006 team to the Final 4 as floor general)
Home run hire IMO
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:11 pm to Bubba Hotep
Scott Drew has been getting La players since he began coaching. That is La connections.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:11 pm to LuzianaFootball
Me personally, I would take the scrutiny that BP brings, it was then, and already dissipating. Scott Drew's NCAA issues however are rather fresh.
Bruce Pearl will rise again, and win big when he's back. The school that lands him will be lucky in their timing, and their braveness to hire him. Same can be said for the school that hires the more charged and convicted Kelvin Sampson. Both can recruit, coach, etc..strong HCs.
Bruce Pearl will rise again, and win big when he's back. The school that lands him will be lucky in their timing, and their braveness to hire him. Same can be said for the school that hires the more charged and convicted Kelvin Sampson. Both can recruit, coach, etc..strong HCs.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:13 pm to Bubba Hotep
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LSU will likely pursue a candidate with Louisiana connections
This is code for "we're going to let the good ole boy politicos pick who they want".
Bad news. I guess LSU really doesn't care about being good in basketball.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:14 pm to Elleshoe
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Ben Voogd (led the 2006 team to the Final 4 as floor general)
He's been my darkhorse hope all along.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:14 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Scott Drew's NCAA issues however are rather fresh
I dont understand why this is still being brought up. Its from 07-08 and in 3 years of the NCAA trying to find things on the basketball teams, they found 1200 phone calls...Thats it. Nothing was lied about and Drew was not coming off of probation as was the case with Sampson. At most 1 docked scholarship and 4-5 game suspension. What Pearl did was MUCH worse.
This post was edited on 4/11/12 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:19 pm to Adam Banks
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$13 million practice facility (almost double the cost of the new buisness college) says otherwise. Also they tripled the salary of Caldwell to get her for WOMENS bball.
Cutting 49 out of the 50 states out of our search for a head coach tells you all you need to know. Lip service and a few bucks for a practice facility =/= serious commitment to the mens basketball program.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:23 pm to Adam Banks
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JJ has 5 20 win seasons out of the last 6
A 20 win season isn't all that special in college basketball any more when teams are playing 35 or more games. Hell, Trent almost won 20 games this year.
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will burn up the phone line of every louisiana recruit
I think the problem is there aren't a lot of great ones, and even the few there are we have no guarantee that Jones can get them just because he's from here.
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Hes not the best option out there
Then that should be the end of the story.
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he will work much harder than trent did.
I don't give a damn how hard he works if he doesn't win. Winning about 60% of your games at a Sun Belt school doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that you can win on the national level.
If you want to see how Johnny Jones will do at LSU, just look to the last four or five years under Dale Brown, because Jones was basically running the program at that time.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:23 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Cutting 49 out of the 50 states out of our search for a head coach tells you all you need to know. Lip service and a few bucks for a practice facility =/= serious commitment to the mens basketball program.
So you are taking Martins email to some random NMSU blogger that "in all likelihood" they will hire someone with "connections" to get the guy off martins back because he emailed out of concern of us taking New Mexico States coach as definitive proof that we will hire a former LSU assistant? 
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:24 pm to VegasPro
I'm all for Drew's hiring of the supposed viable candidates listed thus far. And I too think they lesser charges.
Pearl lied, was caught, admitted and faced the music, now doing his time. But, is a winner, and has an exciting brand of ball, he'll be back in 2015 after show-cause expires in late 2014.
LSU Hoops needs a salesman and charisma guy, needed it last time the job opened, when the brainf@rts in charge all chose TJ(the anti-charmer of alltime) over Grant.
Bruce Pearl and Scott Drew have that quality in abundance.
Pearl lied, was caught, admitted and faced the music, now doing his time. But, is a winner, and has an exciting brand of ball, he'll be back in 2015 after show-cause expires in late 2014.
LSU Hoops needs a salesman and charisma guy, needed it last time the job opened, when the brainf@rts in charge all chose TJ(the anti-charmer of alltime) over Grant.
Bruce Pearl and Scott Drew have that quality in abundance.
This post was edited on 4/11/12 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:25 pm to Sandtrap
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If, we, as the fanbase can see that the Louisiana tie aspect isn't important, and the media sees it the same way, why can't the administration?
Because fans and media aren't their bosses. The Board of Supervisors is, and it is filled with good ole boy politicos who want someone they like and can control. It's about preserving their power. They ruined LSU football for decades with that stupid shite until Emmert told them to frick off and hired Saban. And even after that, they fought him on the AD hire when he wanted Barnhart and they wanted Moreau, resulting in a compromise pick...Bertman. The Board of Supervisors' idiotic obsession with hiring people with LSU or Louisiana ties is a cancer that afflicts LSU athletics. I will bet now that Bertman is retired they will do the same fricking thing when it's time to hire a new football coach after Miles retires. They just never fricking learn, or don't fricking care.
This post was edited on 4/11/12 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:25 pm to Bubba Hotep
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LSU will likely pursue a candidate with Louisiana connections
Geez, WHY!!!!
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:30 pm to Adam Banks
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So you are taking Martins email to some random NMSU blogger that "in all likelihood" they will hire someone with "connections" to get the guy off martins back because he emailed out of concern of us taking New Mexico States coach as definitive proof that we will hire a former LSU assistant?
No, I take "we will likely hire someone with Louisiana connections" to mean we will likely hire someone with Louisiana connections, which eliminates the vast majority of the potential field of coaches. Stupid, but typical LSU BoS bullshite.
This post was edited on 4/11/12 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:32 pm to Bubba Hotep
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Chancellor Martin: LSU will likely pursue a candidate with Louisiana connections
how about:
Chancellor Martin: LSU will likely pursue a candidate with connections to a winning program like Duke, UNC, Kansas, [insert CBB powerhouse here].
I dont get it. we didnt look for "Louisiana connections" when hiring Miles. we went for a guy we thought could elevate and keep the program at the top.
Why limit yourself so much????
This post was edited on 4/11/12 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:35 pm to Nuts4LSU
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This is code for "we're going to let the good ole boy politicos pick who they want". Bad news. I guess LSU really doesn't care about being good in basketball.
true. I can read between the lines. Gonna be a shitty hire.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:37 pm to Nuts4LSU
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No, I take "we will likely hire someone with Louisiana connections" to mean we will likely hire someone with Louisiana connections, which eliminates the vast majority of the potential field of coaches.
Even with the most literal interpretation "louisiana connections" includes a pool of
Scott Drew
Bryce Drew
Jaimie Dixon
Buzz Williams
Tim Floyd
Tyndall
The only top candidate (who would listen to us) with no LA connections is Pastner.
No we arent getting Shaka Smart. No we arent getting Brad Stevens. No matter what type of money we threw at them. The names above are easily among the hottest names in coaching searches right now. Many of those have already had some smoke about inquiring (from one side or the other) about the LSU job-Scott Drew, Dixon, Floyd.
This post was edited on 4/11/12 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:37 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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LSU Hoops needs a salesman and charisma guy, needed it last time the job opened
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I just don't buy this AT ALL. It wasn't Trent Johnson's lack of charisma that cost him his job, it was 3 straight losing seasons in conf. and the fact that after a season of somewhat improvement, he had virtually no new recruits to fill the voids left by graduating players.
LSU could bring in a guy who never acknowledged the crowd before/after games, tipped 2% at dinner, kicked stray puppies when walking into his office, and farted in crowded elevators without even saying "excuse me", and as long as he had the team in the hunt for SEC and National titles year in and year out, the fans would flock to the PMAC. Winning cures all!
The people who bring up the need for a "showman" are essentially saying "we need someone like Dale Brown, becuase he's the only coach who ever won big at LSU. Therefore we HAVE to hire a coach just like him"
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:40 pm to Alt26
How about Karl Malone?
(Sarcasm)
If this is Martins stance, he's as much of a buffoon as Alleva is. Does he not realize that successful basketball programs recruit nationally, and not just depend on in-state players.
(Sarcasm)
If this is Martins stance, he's as much of a buffoon as Alleva is. Does he not realize that successful basketball programs recruit nationally, and not just depend on in-state players.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:40 pm to TJG210
You can have Billy Kennedy.
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