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re: Chad Jones hit vs. La Tech hit on TT
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:07 pm to lsumma09
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:07 pm to lsumma09
Incidental contact from two people moving in opposite directions is not a penalty. He led with his shoulder. It was incredibly clear on the new HD screen in the NEZ.
If it had been an Arky defender doing the same thing to LaFell I still would say no penalty. It wasn't.
If it had been an Arky defender doing the same thing to LaFell I still would say no penalty. It wasn't.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:10 pm to Lester Earl
how is the arky wr defenseless?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:11 pm to LNCHBOX
Plus thats almost a game changing call. Just doesnt seem right to call that there. Like calling a foul with 1 second left in a basketball game on a ticky tack play. You just dont do it.
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:11 pm to heartbreakTiger
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how is the arky wr defenseless?
Any player in the act of catching a pass is deemed defenseless.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:12 pm to heartbreakTiger
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how is the arky wr defenseless?
seriously?
im pretty sure his feet werent even on the ground
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:14 pm to Lester Earl
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im pretty sure his feet werent even on the ground
so now he was flying?
jk jk
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:16 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:kige that....
Incidental contact from two people moving in opposite directions is not a penalty. He led with his shoulder.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:18 pm to bmy
Looked like left shoulder to me.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:18 pm to DollaChoppa
Both hits were what football is all about...they might as well put flags on these guys now b/c it's starting to turn into girly ball. No flags should have been thrown on either LaTech or CJ hits.
When you are running full speed at a guy and your goal is to keep them from catching a pass, how in the hell can you control EXACTLY where and how you hit them, esp when the other guy is moving too?
When you are running full speed at a guy and your goal is to keep them from catching a pass, how in the hell can you control EXACTLY where and how you hit them, esp when the other guy is moving too?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:25 pm to lsumma09
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but by the rule they both are
You are correct.
Rule 9-1-3b
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No player shall initiate contact and target a defenseless opponent above the shoulders. When in question, it is a foul.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:28 pm to arrakis
So where was contact initiated above the shoulder on CJ's hit?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:35 pm to LNCHBOX
If you take away the ability of the defensive player to jar the TD pass loose with a hard hit, you fundamentally change the game. You might as well take away their pads and cleats and give them ballet shoes.
Hard hits are a part of football. They are a big part of good defensive football.
Hard hits are a part of football. They are a big part of good defensive football.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:44 pm to Katy Tiger
I don't think the hit on TT was illegal IMO. According to NCAA I guess it is but it's part of the game. Just let them play. It's a violent game and violent hits occur. Let them play. You can't protect every body from every thing.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 1:22 pm to lsumma09
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Once again. It does not matter if CJ used his helmet
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lsumma09
What part of "he did not lead with his helmet" do you not understand? CJ lead with his shoulder, hit the receiver in the shoulder and it was a violent collision. Please look at all the replays and you will see, if you want to see. Otherwise keep beating a dead mule but it was a poor called made late because the Arky receivers helment came off from the collision and he was suddenly going the other direction.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 1:28 pm to DollaChoppa
Both are penalties ! Who are you callin a hypocrite dick head!!!!
Posted on 11/29/09 at 2:38 pm to Katy Tiger
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If you take away the ability of the defensive player to jar the TD pass loose with a hard hit, you fundamentally change the game. You might as well take away their pads and cleats and give them ballet shoes.
Jeez, how about hitting somewhere below the head? What a complex solution!
Posted on 11/29/09 at 2:45 pm to Ninja Looter
He did. Shoulder-to-shoulder. Helmets bumped afterward.
According to the rule, both are illegal. Neither should be.
But there is NO reason to call them differently.
According to the rule, both are illegal. Neither should be.
But there is NO reason to call them differently.
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