re: CBS Head Coaching Rankings

It has nothing to do with wanting to harp on ole miss. The point is, these rankings take into account a coach’s full body of work. Ole miss is part of O’s, as is his success so far at LSU. You are the one exhibiting a recency bias. These rankings are based on the big picture. If it was called “best coaches in the last 5 years” yeah O would be ranked higher. It’s not that complicated and pointing that out doesn’t make you a hater. It makes you a realist.

Jimbo did win that game but I'll go to my grave saying Auburn was the better team. Give him credit though he called the fake punt when he felt AU had the momentum. Both him and O are good coaches. I just want them to beat little nicky more.

Our rate of turnover compares very similarly to other elite programs. It’s the nature of the business. Success at one level leads to opportunity at a higher level. The difference is the ability to continue bringing in competent replacements. Last year was an example of how to fail miserably in that regard.

And I don’t give a damn about the money. It’s not my money. I advocate backing up the brinks truck to the best possible candidate no matter what is owed due to past transgressions.

If auburn was the better team but FSU won, what does that tell you about the coaches on either side? Having said that, It also doesn’t hurt to have the #1 pick at QB. Say what you will about Jameis, he was a stud in college and in that game.

I agree with everything you’re saying though.

Since I hadn't seen it posted here's the LINK to the rankings for some context

this is the writeup on O, note that they had him at #4 entering last year

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Ed Orgeron: While it's not the biggest fall from one of our coaches as far as placement is concerned, you can argue that going from No. 4 to No. 11 in one season is the most significant drop as far as quality. Orgeron went from being on the top of the world following a national title win to people wondering how much longer he's going to last in Baton Rouge. It felt like Coach O couldn't do anything wrong in 2019 and that it all balanced out by him not being able to do anything right last season. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, and it will be interesting to see what 2021 brings for Orgeron and the Tigers. Consider, though, that Coach O was ranked 30th before the national title season. 2020 rank: 4 (-7)

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The difference is the ability to continue bringing in competent [assistant coach] replacements.

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since there are really only 2 programs consistently making the playoffs I guess everyone else fails in this regard.

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so since no one else is like Bama and Clemson, that justifies our failure to be like them too? How freaking pathetic.

Our goal is to be like Bama and Clemson. We recruit as well as they do, and we have the resources and facilities they do. We can, and should, be like them.

And I don't give a damn if the other 127 schools aren't like them. We're in a different position than they are.

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when O makes a bad hire he tries to fix it instead of being stubborn and sticking with a bad choice

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ok, but every coordinator hire he made has been poor (except Brady).

Yes, firing bad coordinators is better than keeping them on for years, but a head coach shouldn't get credit for having to repeatedly
keep correcting his own bad mistakes.

Having a 100% success rate on coordinator hires may be difficult, but Orgeron is 1 for 4. (Canada, Ensminger in '18, Brady, Linehan, Pelini). And the 2 new coordinators this year are newbies, so we'll see about them.

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every coordinator hire he made has been poor (except Brady).

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How can you say Canada was a poor hire?

I can easily argue the only poor hire he made was Pelini

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Mullen deserves to be on that list.


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Mullen has Coach different programs to top 10 finishes, as well as personally coaching up multiple Heisman caliber QBs.

People in this thread deflect from Coach O's poor record at Ole Miss saying no one wins there, while ignoring Mullen having State as the #1 rated team at one point. He took over a program that was averaging four wins a year and made them a consistent top 25 team in the toughest division in college football. The he took over a Florida team that only won 4 games the prior year, has a 29-9 record there, and has finished in the top 10 two out of his three years.

Mullen is 2-2 against Coach O, and should be 3-1. Marco screwed him over at the end of the game with one of the dumbest penalties I've ever seen.

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will struggle this season

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Its so funny to me when people assume the future when dealing with current rankings

Are they supposed to assess his possible season this year while doing current rankings on body of work?