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Can Woodward have more Power in our scheduling? Sec helmet schedule incl.

Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:57 am
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:57 am


First, the positive:
1. I like GSU the week before Texas.
2. At least some sec teams take a tough game before playing us this year.


But the negative:
1. Schools like Alabama, Auburn, ole miss and MSU will schedule a fcs team before their last rival game of the year. I don’t care how bad Arkansas is, they will put sec players up against us before aTm does, while Other good sec schools are taking a tune up before their rival games.

2. Why bunch up
Nw state
Vandy
Bye
Usu
In a four week stretch? It doesn’t make sense to place a week off before usu then face
UF.
AU.
MSU
in a three weeks stretch.









At a minimum, find a way to switch two game stretches like UF and USU in the future. this can be done. Look at 2007 schedule and how beneficial it was.

Can Woodward emphasize, that for the schedules has has control over for the future, to be able to place us in an advantage for sec games with byes and cupcakes?



Also.....maybe consider putting nw state/fcs before bama since the week off hasn’t helped us in a while. And in two-bye years, try to take a week off before AU and UF.....try that.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 9:19 am
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:06 am to
at Vanderbilt taking a bye in week 3 as if it's going to help them outsmart us. They would have done better scheduling their first bye the week before Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 8:11 am
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:09 am to
quote:

at Vanderbilt taking a bye in week 3 as if it's going to help them outsmart us.



I think schools like Vanderbilt (and other schools not named Alabama) don’t really have much say in where their bye comes in or who before.

That’s what this is about. I’m betting that Joe, was just like, “frickit. Back load out schedule with sec games and I will hope for the best”
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 8:09 am
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Also.....maybe consider putting nw state/fcs before bama since the week off hasn’t helped us in a while. 

What I'm a proponent of is moving the Alabama game to earlier in the season, like late September. LSU would be better served by Alabama not taking a bye; whether we take one or not doesn't have as much impact.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
3881 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:17 am to
quote:

First, the positive:
1. I like GSU the week before Texas.


Not always a positive. I think having a true test out the gate kinda sets the tone for Fall Camp and the season (Miami 2018). This particular team (Returning Experience) doesnt really gain anything by playing Georgia Southern before Texas.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30218 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Not always a positive. I think having a true test out the gate kinda sets the tone for Fall Camp and the season (Miami 2018). This particular team (Returning Experience) doesnt really gain anything by playing Georgia Southern before Texas.



That’s a good point.

I can get on board with whatever our opponent is doing.


In 2001or so, we opened with Virginia Tech in Blacksburg. They had a tune up in week one and we didn’t. They crushed us by three TDS.

Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
1977 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:28 am to
I think Verge has been in charge of scheduling for a while, also I don't know how much power LSU actually has in determining when SEC games are played.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21119 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:41 am to
quote:

how much power LSU actually has in determining when SEC games are played


None.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30218 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:43 am to
Somebody does have some kind of say about it.

The following schools get screwed by allowing a four game sec run with no bye or cupcake.
Tennessee
Missouri
MSU
LSU
Ole miss
Arky
USC
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 8:46 am
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30218 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:37 am to
The following take a weaker opponent before their year end rival game


Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
MSU
Vanderbilt



While three teams take a week off before that game (which can help if you are winning your division since you’ll have some rest before that game and the sec championship).

Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Somebody does have some kind of say about it.

The following schools get screwed by allowing a four game sec run with no bye or cupcake.
Tennessee
Missouri
MSU
LSU
Ole miss
Arky
USC


Funny. Had you not giving us that list that's exactly the list I would have rattled off.

Notice there is no TAMU, Alabama, Auburn, Florida or Georgia?

Those are the power brokers in the SEC. Those are the schools that run this bitch. TAMU only gets in that group because of their money. The rest of us are just here to serve them. To be scheduling fodder.

Vanderbilt probably gets some leeway because they're the ones that give the conference some academic legitimacy. I guess Kentucky gets a pass as well because they are far and away the head of the SEC in the second highest revenue producing sport, basketball.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 9:45 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11154 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:07 am to
If I was going to manipulate the schedule to favor, lets say oh I don't know... Alabama . This is what i'd do: id give them a bye before the biggest games. id spread out the SEC games across the season for those 2. Then id do the same thing for some of the weakest teams, say maybe Kentucky and Vanderbilt. so it doesn't look like im favoring the Auburn and Alabamas. Then do the opposite for the biggest threats, say LSU, Georgia, texas A&M. So in reality, You're bringing up the bottom of the pack, and bringing down the second tier teams to beat each other up.

Id also lean on traditions like cross division rivals to keep the 2nd tier teams at bay.


Anyway, to answer the question. I do think Woodward can and will eventually do something about all of this. He's been on both sides of it, at LSu and at A&M, and now back to LSU. So he obviously sees it. probably wont happen overnight though. Too many other issues to address first.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 10:17 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:32 am to
I like how the schedule sets up.

I like starting off with Geo So. which will force LSU to focus on fundamentals to stop that running attack.

I also like coming off the first by playing USU to warm up for UF.

I like how the byes are split evenly with 4 game stretches.

Over the past 10 years or so, LSU has usually had a cupcake or a bye in November. I don't think this is evidence of any kind of conspiracy to boost Bama, or hurt LSU's chances.

I remember the days of, "Anywhere, anytime". I wish more fans would get on board with that attitude.
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
615 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:48 am to
Ga Southern will be an EXCELLENT first game opponent for the Tigers. Well coached and usually a pretty good squad.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30218 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:02 am to
I’m fine with “anywhere”
But I’d like to tweak “anytime”


If you are strategic about “anytime”, you might be able to turn 9-3 to 10-2. I do believe that.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Id also lean on traditions like cross division rivals to keep the 2nd tier teams at bay.


Yeah, locking in a permanent cross division opponent who has finished in the bottom half of their division going on 20 years, under the ridiculous guise that it is one of the most storied rivalries in college football.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

also I don't know how much power LSU actually has in determining when SEC games are played.


None.
Posted by AmazinGrace
LSU Fan, Georgetown Alumni
Member since Dec 2013
933 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:39 pm to
Georgia Southern will be a tough game to start the season with. They've gone back to the triple option which is always tough to stop. At least we have the entire summer to prepare for the option instead of one week.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10233 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:43 pm to
Amen Wild man up and beat the damn Gumps period. That game needs to stay where it’s at. No one was complaining 10 years ago
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
1574 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:24 pm to
I know UF beat us, but Mullen is an overall lazy recruiter and I think that program might crash and burn from a talent standpoint.
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