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Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:19 am to SabiDojo
True. Bama can be beaten and they have endured their down periods. The problem is their win at all costs mentality and desire to bend all rules to win. Its tough. That is why we need the best coaches and recruiters finding them year in, year out.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:19 am to AlxTgr
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So, you don't know. Figures.
Actually I do and it can't be any worse than the one we implemented.
Spread the team out and let LF pick his holes with the read-option. Get the LBs out of the box some. Test Bama's weak secondary. Implement a short passing routes (screens, crossing routes, outs). Run this offense until Bama stops it.
Run out of the power I (toss dive) occasionally to mix things up.
Any problems with this approach?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:20 am to BHSU Only
quote:Holy shite you suck. Please find another team to sidewalk.
You are the loser of this fan base. We should just accept being second best. frick you.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:20 am to RedTigerRulz
sounds great on paper doesn't it?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:20 am to RedTigerRulz
And furthermore, when Bama's strength is their front 7, you do anything you can to negate them.....not run right at them time after time.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:21 am to RedTigerRulz
quote:The power I
Spread the team out and let LF pick his holes with the read-option. Get the LBs out of the box some. Test Bama's weak secondary. Implement a short passing routes (screens, crossing routes, outs). Run this offense until Bama stops it.
Run out of the power I (toss dive) occasionally to mix things up.
Did you see how well we blocked everything?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:22 am to AlexLSU
just look at what belichick does. Every team he faces he finds their strengths and weaknesses. Then he converts his offense to attack that weakness and plans his defense on their strengths.
What do we do when we face a physical team at the line of scrimmage? Try to go head up everytime.
What do we do when we face a physical team at the line of scrimmage? Try to go head up everytime.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:23 am to AlxTgr
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Run out of the power I (toss dive) occasionally to mix things up.
I never said it would be successful...I said to mix it up.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:23 am to bayouvette
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ust look at what belichick does. Every team he faces he finds their strengths and weaknesses. Then he converts his offense to attack that weakness and plans his defense on their strengths.
it also helps that he has one of the greatest QBs of all time
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:24 am to RedTigerRulz
Hard to negate it when the only consistently effective pass is Dupre in the red zone or Dural deep on post patterns. As posted many times before, when BH becomes a complete QB and pass effectively on the underneath stuff, this will be a more diverse offense. If he can't it becomes a QB developmental issue (Here is looking at you Cam!!) and/or on Harris.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:24 am to AlexLSU
I know people look at 2000-2007 and say it's been done.
You can't overlook a fact that nobody wants to admit, especially Auburn. From 2000-2006 those were teams that were handed the worst sanctions this side of SMU. Us sucking was the NCAA's intention and it worked. We were down once to 59 players and I was talking to Tyler Watts about it one day and he said most of those had no business playing college football. We played an SEC game in 2004 with 3 starters on D that were walk-ons. Arkie led 27-0 at halftime and we never came close to challenging them that day. Who wanted to go to a school with no bowl opportunity and only 12 schollies to give out? Nobody. It was some bad coaches yes but the MAIN issue was the sanctions. Once those were lifted we were gonna be competetive again. Shula wasnt nearly as bad as his record showed he just didnt have any material. Us getting Saban at the same time the sanctions left was just the perfect storm but we weren't gonna stay as a 6 win team no matter who the coach was.
You can't overlook a fact that nobody wants to admit, especially Auburn. From 2000-2006 those were teams that were handed the worst sanctions this side of SMU. Us sucking was the NCAA's intention and it worked. We were down once to 59 players and I was talking to Tyler Watts about it one day and he said most of those had no business playing college football. We played an SEC game in 2004 with 3 starters on D that were walk-ons. Arkie led 27-0 at halftime and we never came close to challenging them that day. Who wanted to go to a school with no bowl opportunity and only 12 schollies to give out? Nobody. It was some bad coaches yes but the MAIN issue was the sanctions. Once those were lifted we were gonna be competetive again. Shula wasnt nearly as bad as his record showed he just didnt have any material. Us getting Saban at the same time the sanctions left was just the perfect storm but we weren't gonna stay as a 6 win team no matter who the coach was.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:24 am to Salmon
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sounds great on paper doesn't it?
Well yeah I guess. I mean we've never implemented it on the ground.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:28 am to bayouvette
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just look at what belichick does
They nickel and dime you down the field with different personnel on the o-line. It makes a defense work hard MENTALLY. Only the most disciplined defenses can stop it.
Am I asking for that much? No. All I want is some variations in the packages we see. Bunch formations, bunch shotgun formations, ace slot formations. There are ways to exploit an overagressive, powerful front 7. frick, it's not like Nick Saban has created the most infallible defense of all time.
They can be beaten, they can be run on, they can be thrown on. The question is are you willing to go out of your own way to do the work and find out how.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:28 am to NorthEndZone
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When your enemy has you believing that, they have already won.
So you honestly think LSU has a better coach and team? Years of data say otherwise, especially when you look at Alabama compared to every other program in the country. Being realistic about the situation doesn't make you a bad fan; it means you have perspective. Just because Ole Miss, OU, or Ohio State beat Alabama occasionally doesn't really mean shite.
Saban is 59-12 in the SEC I believe
59-12
59 wins
12 losses
Let that sink in man. It's absurd. It's just a fact that they are better, and that doesn't make me a negatiger; it makes me a realitiger
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:31 am to 0jersey
We should never have taken him back. Skip and the BOS should have no regrets for telling him No. He wanted complete control and autonomy and Skip (or any other AD) to kiss his arse every second. What he has at Bama he wanted here. Sell the soul for one person? Errrrr Nope! I can live with Saban's personality faults. But not enforcing all of his will on a program to that extent.
Bama and maybe three other programs in this country will sacrifice their unborn to the Prince of Darkness to win games and try to win with no ethics. LSU, like most programs, won't do that. He is at the perfect place where they would do ANYTHING to win and have a league office in their back pocket. We love to win. But at what costs? Bama is Nick Saban University. LSU is LSU. Winning and championships are important. But so is life and education outside of football.
Bama and maybe three other programs in this country will sacrifice their unborn to the Prince of Darkness to win games and try to win with no ethics. LSU, like most programs, won't do that. He is at the perfect place where they would do ANYTHING to win and have a league office in their back pocket. We love to win. But at what costs? Bama is Nick Saban University. LSU is LSU. Winning and championships are important. But so is life and education outside of football.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:40 am to Canwoodtiger
I don't even know that Saban even tried to come back to LSU. Who knows. But Saban has shown his defense is beatable when faced with spread teams. Mobile QBs drive him nuts. It doesn't take out-recruiting him, it takes scheming. Make those giant LBs run. Les doesn't do that. I guarantee Okie would've scored on Bama in 2011. Might not have won, but would've scored. Guarantee. Utah, Ok, OSU, OM, TAM- none of these had superior talent to Bama.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:42 am to BHSU Only
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You are the loser of this fan base. We should just accept being second best. frick you
I was waiting for the village idiot to show up late to the town meeting. You did not disappoint, friend
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:43 am to AlexLSU
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Some of that has to do with us being the consistent #2 in the SEC
If we are the #2 team in the conference, shouldn't we be comparing ourselves to the #1 team in hopes of potentially being better? Or, do you suggest that we compare ourselves to the lesser teams so losses will become acceptable?
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I think more has to do with the "Saban factor"
Those people that hate Bama bc of Saban are definitely misguided. Everyone knew Saban was using LSU as a stepping stone to the NFL, there were no secrets about this and we accepted him with open arms. He then went to the NFL and failed, so he wanted to be back in college. Bama was garbage at the time and he had an opportunity to bring them back to relevance.
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they have signed five consecutive #1 recruiting classes
This is a subjective measuring stick, with what usually amounts to very little differences between the #1 team and the #20 team. And, it's not like LSU was that far off in those years.
2015: LSU #8 (per Rivals Bama was #2)
2014: LSU #2
2013: LSU #6
2012: LSU #18
2011: LSU #6
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:44 am to AlexLSU
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Alabama is better than Ole Miss
What proof do you have????? I saw Ole Miss beat Bama. That is the only measuring rod there is. They defeated Bama point blank period.
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