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re: Can we all agree the next two months decides the coaching direction we go?

Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10675 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:08 pm to
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Cs and abelljr wanted to fire O last Sunday. They are BDP homers for some reason


I think BDP is a terrible coach.

I think Orgeron was the right selection for the interim position, but unless he wins out, he shouldn't be considered.
Posted by ParrishGore
Walker, La.
Member since Aug 2013
939 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:13 pm to
Hell, Coach O deserves a chance to prove himself before being fired.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:17 pm to
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Peveto's winning percentage as a permanent head coach > Orgeron's winning percentage as a permanent head coach.



Apples to oranges and you know it.

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If Peveto were given the interim job, and won out, no one would want him to be retained. Yet, fans already want to give the job to Orgeron, primarily due to his Louisiana roots and jolly good personality. There's a logical inconsistency here that's being driven by LSU's fans emotional response to Orgeron as the head coach.



What is your obsession with Peveto?

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Being the interim head coach isn't the same as being the head guy year in and year out. There's a reason Orgeron wasn't retained at USC, and there's a reason he sat around for an entire year without one head coaching offer before LSU ultimately hired him as the defensive line coach. If Orgeron is an elite head coach, why did Syracuse hire Babers without even considering coach O? Orgeron even publicly said, verbatim, "My interest would be very high," and yet he wasn't given the time of day. That's quite telling.



Why wasn't Orgeron given the USCw job? You wrote there was a reason, what is it?
How did the USCw choice pan out?
Syracuse kicking serious butt now?

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I'm not in a position to say. Probably not, if I had to guess. He's had more off the field issues than just alcohol, though.



Do tell and relate how it will effect his ability to coach and manage a program the size of LSU's.

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There are head coaches out there with extensive, documented histories of success. Simply because some schools have failed in previous coaching searches doesn't mean LSU will follow the same path.


What about coaches that failed at one school and were hired at another?
Urban Meyer flamed out at Florida. Petrino flamed out at Atlanta and Arkansas. According to your qualifications none deserved a second or third chance. Freeze seems to have trouble understanding the NCAA rule book so that story still hasn't ended.
Be consistent now. Fail once fail forever?

Finally how many seasons and against what level of competition should be the benchmark for the man you are so eager to replace Orgeron with?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:18 pm to
Yet you keep bringing up BDP's past, you keep bringing up the fact that Les one a national championship 9 years ago, you keep bringing up Coach O's record at UM (which he knows what he did wrong).

What is your argument against Coach O again? Isn't it shite that happened 10 years ago?
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:18 pm to
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I think Orgeron was the right selection for the interim position, but unless he wins out, he shouldn't be considered.

Sort of. He should at least be in the mix - but that's all. All options need to stay open until the search begins in earnest (it may have already begun). LSU was a damsel in distress and Coach O road in on a white horse. But you know what they say about damsels in distress..... once you save them, they're not in distress anymore and the thrill is gone.

Careful what you wish for, Coach O Fan Club.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15855 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:27 pm to
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Being a coonass does count for something.


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peanuts4brainz


Computes
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:28 pm to
frick, if he can do it, he can do it. If he can't, he can't. It's not that hard of a concept to understand, yet people already want him fired. How fricking stupid is that?

Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10675 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:29 pm to
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What is your argument against Coach O again? Isn't it shite that happened 10 years ago?


Yeah, it's that 4-21 SEC record. No big deal, though.

A fitting hire for an "elite" program such as LSU...


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yet people already want him fired. How fricking stupid is that?


Fired from what? The interim position? I don't want that. No one here has said that.

If he wins out with a SEC Championship, give him the job. If not, don't consider him. That's my stance.
This post was edited on 10/2/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10675 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:29 pm to
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Why wasn't Orgeron given the USCw job? You wrote there was a reason, what is it?
How did the USCw choice pan out?
Syracuse kicking serious butt now?



Helton certainly wasn't the right hire - but that doesn't mean that retaining Orgeron would have been the right choice.

Syracuse is Syracuse - it's going to be difficult for anyone to go there and win. The fact that they didn't even consider Orgeron, after he publicly stated he wanted the job, is extremely telling.

This post was edited on 10/2/16 at 3:36 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42193 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:30 pm to
I thought we didn't like coaches who talked funny
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22904 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:31 pm to
I don't think we get to decide, even if he runs the table.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38099 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:33 pm to
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frick, if he can do it, he can do it. If he can't, he can't. It's not that hard of a concept to understand, yet people already want him fired.
While some do, I think most people just have a difference of opinion on what he has to do to get the job.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86268 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:34 pm to
It's one game, but if this thing gets turned around extend him for 2 years and see what happens, there will be other coaches.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15855 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:34 pm to
Amazing the number of people who don't get it.

O is not coaching for the job. He's coaching to be CONSIDERED for the job. He's coaching for the right to be the default choice if jimbo or Herman decline. If he does well, then we don't have to look into the fedoras or petrino's or kiffins. It's really quite simple. You don't have to agree with it. It is what it is. LSU is not sitting around waiting to see what O is gonna do, then once he loses a couple they can start making phone calls. Short of winning out, which I'm pretty sure would mean a natty, he's no better than third on the list. If he goes 7-1 w/a bama W, it could be more interesting.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15855 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:36 pm to
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frick, if he can do it, he can do it. If he can't, he can't. It's not that hard of a concept to understand, yet people already want him fired. How fricking stupid is that?


Who said anything about wanting him fired?
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15855 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:37 pm to
Orgeron is like the teams in the NCAA tourney that have to play the play in game. He's coaching for the right to get in the tourney
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:37 pm to
If we take Lane Kiffin, I will not watch or attend one single game until he is fired
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Who said anything about wanting him fired?
Half of the people on this board want him to basically do the impossible or he's gone
This post was edited on 10/2/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:40 pm to
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Helton certainly wasn't the right hire - but that doesn't mean that retaining Orgeron would have been the right choice.

Syracuse is Syracuse - it's going to be difficult for anyone to go there and win. The fact that they didn't even consider Orgeron, after he publicly stated he wanted the job, is extremely telling.





Even you must realize how weak this sauce is.
Apparently Syrqacuse followed your line of thought,"If USCw didn't want him, we dont either ."

How is that working out for them?
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:41 pm to
We are not getting Herman. I don't see why people think we have this great chance of landing him. I would love to get him but Texas will hire Herman.
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3485 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:41 pm to
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Herman going to UT!


Where do you all the others who say this get your info from? You got a relative or an unnamed "source" ?
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