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re: Burrow is the best complete QB in the SEC. True or False?

Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:48 pm to
Thanks for further proving my point with Montana's 1978 stat line:

quote:

Joe Montana- 2,010 yards, 10TDs, 9INTs, 124.9 ratings


QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:52 pm to
Lmfao wow you know I’ve noticed something with the crazies on this board, it doesn’t matter what you say or what your argument is you have this ability to turn on a dime and claim you’ve been saying the exact opposite once you’re backed into a corner. I guess when you have no standards no dignity and no honestly in you at all you think this is an easy and viable option. Unfortunately for you guys post history and the thread you’re posting in exists. So once again WRONG!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:57 pm to
“QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme.”


This narrative and excuse has already been debunked. You’ve also altered it several times from its original layout. What else ya got?
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:59 pm
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:59 pm to
Who are his top 5 QBs in the SEC? I’ve asked him twice but he won’t answer.
Posted by LL7
Houston
Member since Mar 2010
3319 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:00 pm to
Joe Burrow is one of the toughest, if not the absolute toughest QB in the SEC. He doesn’t have the strongest arm or the quickest release but he is definitely a leader. I’m glad he plays for LSU.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:01 pm to
He’s already said that Burrow is better than Tua and Fromm and possibly Tom Brady. I mean do you even want him to answer that? Might as well ask my 2 year old niece who she likes.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:13 pm to
Oh my.

Well, ok then. Whole lot wrong there but whatever.

Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:14 pm to
Absolutely false
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

He’s already said that Burrow is better than Tua and Fromm and possibly Tom Brady. I mean do you even want him to answer that? Might as well ask my 2 year old niece who she likes.


Burrow will be a top-5 pick in the 20 draft. Fromm will probably be also. Same with Tua when he goes. For a Spread/RPO offense, I'd take Burrow over anyone else in the draft.

If you morons looked at nothing but college stats, you'd ABSOLUTELY have missed Brady, Montana, and Unitas (just to name a few HOF caliber QBs with far-less-than-stellar college stats)
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Burrow will be a top-5 pick in the 20 draft.

Oh wow
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:15 pm to
Lmfao I’ll bet you whatever you want that won’t happen. We do look at other things like skills a player has and doesn’t have which is why everybody besides you knows that Joe Burrow won’t be a top 5 draft choice and isn’t some RPO revelation. You’re insane.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 9:26 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59955 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

If you morons looked at nothing but college stats, you'd ABSOLUTELY have missed Brady, Montana, and Unitas


All those guys were drafted in later rounds so I fail to see what your point there.

However, No one except you looks exclusively at one and only one data point and no one drafts on just stats



This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:41 pm to
“QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme.”

quote:

This narrative and excuse has already been debunked.

Debunked??? LOL! What a load of horseshite!!! Got a link to that???
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Burrow will be a top-5 pick in the 20 draft.




I'd ban bet you but what's the point? You won't be back after this year anyway.

You must've meant top 5 QB. I think that is an attainable goal for him.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:09 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59955 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme.


Yes, though probably not in the way you think. And of course normal people (that does not include you) adjust for things like scheme in their analysis



Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:49 pm to
“QB stats are HEAVILY affected by team play and scheme.”

Madking:
"This narrative and excuse has already been debunked."
This has to be the most embarrassingly clueless statement I've ever read on a football site. Pathetic.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:56 pm to
You're simple minded for over estimating the effects of the different variables and not being realistic.

Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Joe is the complete player and IMO will be head and shoulders above the rest in the SEC


I’m very happy that Burrow is at LSU. Had he not chosen LSU a year ago this team would've probably struggled to 7-8 wins. A season like that on the heels of 2017’s disappointments and things would be unraveling. Recruiting would not be what it’s been and Orgeron’s seat would be on fire. That said, there’s an argument that Burrow is the third best QB in the SEC, but nothing more than that.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59955 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Right, genius. Like Brady's stats at Michigan.


If you arguing that Tom Brady didn’t put up big stats in college because of insufficient talent around him, then you can not ever claim another poster is clueless about football ever again

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

If you arguing that Tom Brady didn’t put up big stats in college because of insufficient talent around him, then you can not ever claim another poster is clueless about football ever again


READ what I said - Team play AND scheme. Mike DeBord was Brady's OC at Michigan. He was a three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust guy. Brady could have designed a better passing scheme than DeBord's on the back of a menu on a lunch break.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 10:20 pm
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