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re: Burleson's official website vanishes after Fox8 contacts SEC

Posted on 11/12/09 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28915 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 11:58 pm to
And the pot thickens....I wonder if they would make them forfeit the game or something, would they ever do a rematch? Has that ever happened before? I've got questions, so give me some answers! What would be the punishment?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28276 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 12:17 am to
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I didn't believe a conspiracy, and still don't, but this is starting to smell. The link disappearing reeks of a coverup, but if everything is on the up and up, there's no need for a cover up.



At a minimum, the SEC should own up to responsibility for allowing the guy anywhere near the booth for a game involving the University of Alabama.

FWIW, Burleson's site disappearing is almost more alarming than him being in or near the replay booth to begin with. I can handle officiating errors, but I simply cannot accept the SEC's allowance of human biases to influence games and the SEC's silence on a very suspicious set of circumstances.
This post was edited on 11/13/09 at 12:20 am
Posted by John Beckwith
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
280 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 12:20 am to
Some SEC officials have attended SEC schools. The ref that knocked down Stephen Garcia during the South Carolina game last year (Wilbur Hackett) played for Kentucky. And that's just one off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more. I just don't understand how they can let this happen.

And great job guys on digging this up. Keep up the good work! We'll get to the bottom of this soon.

Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28276 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 12:22 am to
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And great job guys on digging this up. Keep up the good work! We'll get to the bottom of this soon.


In all honesty, unfortunately I really don't think anything will ever come of it in terms of an SEC response or suspended official for this particular game. But, at the least, it will open up people's eyes to the fact that everything is not as "legitimate" as the SEC would like you to believe. I believe this might waken a "sleeping giant" in terms of public opinion and the general public buying the propaganda that the league continues to pump out.

There are flaws in the system, and most of those flaws involve human bias, and the SEC must find a way to eliminate those human biases, or the validity of the conference itself will start to suffer.
This post was edited on 11/13/09 at 12:27 am
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2038 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 12:22 am to
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What would be the punishment


if anything was ever proven, then probably vacated wins
Posted by SFTiger
Maryland
Member since Feb 2007
610 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 12:25 am to
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So what's next? Another billboard fundraiser, but for Birmingham this time?


That's an excellent idea!
Posted by tiger64
Rowlett (Dallas area)
Member since Oct 2004
450 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 12:25 am to
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Has bitching, moaning, and belly aching ever accomplished anything except for make the people doing it look like asses?

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tell him like it is !

semper fi

Thanks for your service !
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 1:59 am to
send it to espn
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28276 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:15 am to
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And the pot thickens...



To say the least.

Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:22 am to
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In all honesty, unfortunately I really don't think anything will ever come of it in terms of an SEC response or suspended official for this particular game. But, at the least, it will open up people's eyes to the fact that everything is not as "legitimate" as the SEC would like you to believe. I believe this might waken a "sleeping giant" in terms of public opinion and the general public buying the propaganda that the league continues to pump out. There are flaws in the system, and most of those flaws involve human bias, and the SEC must find a way to eliminate those human biases, or the validity of the conference itself will start to suffer.


You can bet Silve and his crew are circling the wagons and battening down the hatches over this. The pulled web site is evidence of this. I doubt publicly they will ever say or admit to anything. You can bet behind the scenes things are changing even now. They know they got caught at the very least being lackadaisical with oversight.
On the bright side they cant help Bama this week and may even have to give bama a really rough time with officiating at MSU.
Posted by SlidellTiger
Madisonville, La
Member since Jan 2004
1552 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:26 am to
I am calling for a full NCAA investigation.

Let the truth be told - if there is no wrong doing, no one should be offended. - if there conclusive evidence of corruption, then lets get if fixed
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:29 am to
You just have to think the NCAA isnt pleased at all by all this bad PR.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21496 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:31 am to
What's getting lost in this one game BS is that this guy was an on the field ref for an unstated period of time. If he's thought to have influenced this one call from the replay booth, how many times did he actually make a call on the field that influenced a game with Bama?? Think back over the yrs over all the questionable calls & put this guy on the field.
Posted by steelreign
Deridder
Member since Jan 2009
11086 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:32 am to
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if anything was ever proven, then probably vacated wins


I doubt that would even happen. It would more than likely be the SEC saying "Opps, our bad, we promise not to do it again." Than fine everybody that says anything else about it.
Posted by Wag000
Member since Oct 2009
29 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:44 am to
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2- The specific gentleman in the booth you inquired about served as the “communicator” in the Alabama-LSU game


and the replay offical obiviously got the message....
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20475 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:47 am to
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2- The specific gentleman in the booth you inquired about served as the “communicator” in the Alabama-LSU game




and the replay offical obiviously got the message....


Yes, he did.
Posted by Wag000
Member since Oct 2009
29 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 7:55 am to
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What's getting lost in this one game BS is that this guy was an on the field ref for an unstated period of time. If he's thought to have influenced this one call from the replay booth, how many times did he actually make a call on the field that influenced a game with Bama?? Think back over the yrs over all the questionable calls & put this guy on the field.


Some AU poster addressed this issue already. Dick has put it to AU numerous times over the years. It would be cool to look back over his career.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10981 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 8:02 am to
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I'm really starting to believe the SEC scr*w*d up by letting this guy anywhere near the booth, and he scr*w*d them by influencing calls for BAMA. I believe it's an issue of inexcusable imcompetence on the part of the SEC, and this guy taking advantage of the situation. Anyhow, that's my opinion.



You don't believe in a cover up but go on to say this?
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3432 posts
Posted on 11/13/09 at 8:03 am to
I searched yesturday looking at his speaking engagements and found some interesting quotes from some of his talks. One topic was that the SEC has officials meet with the FBI at times to instruct on how to stay away from gambling. Burleson commented that northern alabama is second only to Vegas in betting on college football.

The BS about him not being the guy make the call in the booth is funny. His job description says that he is involved in grading the officials for the conference. I don't know about yall, but if one of my bosses is looking over my shoulder it may influence me.

And JP, there is another picture out there of a Bear autographed picture with a note from the Bear to "dick." I think it is on the cover or back cover of his book.
This post was edited on 11/13/09 at 8:05 am
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