re: BRPD releasing the Koy Moore bodycam footage this afternoon.

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All you have to be is be reasonable suspicious that someone is hiding a weapon.

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And in determining whether the officer acted reasonably in such circumstances, due weight must be given, not to his inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or 'hunch,' but to the specific reasonable inferences which he is entitled to draw from the facts in light of his experience.

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Then you ask “well what facts are the courts looking for?”

And then you use examples of what the court has held as appropriate searches and what facts they thought supported it.

And we’re back to what in said.

It’s not the only grounds, but it’s one big specific one.

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Your pussy is still sore about this, isn't it?

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Not as sore as you’re a-hole from bending over and taking it from the cops.

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Not as sore as you’re a-hole from bending over and taking it from the cops.

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I've forgotten more about law enforcement than you've tried to absorb over the last 24 hours.

Legally, the officers did nothing wrong. If they did, they'd have been charged or still under investigation.

All of your crying and griping doesn't change that.

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Sammy defended Moore for the tweet and thought the cops deserved being called out. He did, however, think that everyone who posted in the original thread said Moore was totally lying... which, ironically, is another lie from Sammy.

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Sammy immediately took Moore at his word, but now says it’s not uncommon for people under duress to get their facts wrong when retelling a story.

It appears to me he’s going to defend Moore no matter what.

Now he does bring up some good questions about his cops are to handle themselves legally and ethically; however, these questions really have nothing to do with the main question st hand, was Moore telling the truth?

He’s thrown out ref herring after red herring and even has admitted Moore lied giving him an excuse, but the fact is for whatever reason Moore lied excuse or no excuse.

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Now he does bring up some good questions about his cops are to handle themselves legally and ethically

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Aside from "being mean", what did those officers do that was either illegal or unethical?

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Aside from "being mean", what did those officers do that was either illegal or unethical?

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Legally they aren’t allowed to go into his pockets unless the feel a gun or obvious contraband.

Second, their reasonable suspicion is very questionable.

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Legally they aren’t allowed to go into his pockets unless the feel a gun or obvious contraband.

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Wonder why they weren't charged? Why didn't Koy's lawyer file suit? Weak sauce.

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Second, their reasonable suspicion is very questionable.

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In what way?

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It’s not a criminal act.

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It's not a criminal act to violate someone's 4th Amendment rights?

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The only fact they’re relying on is that they were hiding which is a weak grounds for resonance suspicion.

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Do police need reasonable suspicion or probable cause to make contact with someone? Or both? Or neither?

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It is not.

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Ah.

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To seize them, meaning they aren’t free to go, they need at least reasonable suspicion. This was legally a seizure.

You need probably cause to arrest someone.

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So we agree that the officers did nothing criminal?

Excellent.

Now, is it just about them being mean to the football player that has you so emotional?

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So we agree that the officers did nothing criminal?

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Are you simple?

Legally a seizure means it was a seizure by legal definition.

I didn’t say this was a seizure that was legal.

And again, you can break the lw without it being criminal.

Cops violate the 4th amendment all the time, most of them aren’t arrested for it. They courts just throw out evidence.