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Brian Kelly holding players accountable on sidelines. [Y] or N
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:15 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:15 am
Seen several instances now where you can see BK light into players on the sidelines after a dumb play or penalty. I like the "coaching in the moment." Saban used to do the same thing earlier on in his career (not as much now that he's getting old). Have seen some comments around how this isn't a good look for the coach or players but shows that coach is not afraid to hold players accountable.
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:16 am to TigerFan244
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Saban used to do the same thing earlier on in his career (not as much now that he's getting old)
lolwut?
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Have seen some comments around how this isn't a good look for the coach or players
lolwut?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:17 am to TigerFan244
Aaaaand he knows what he’s doing on the off week.
quote:peeled from dandy.
• Asked about how they handle the bye week, Kelly said that yesterday they went over mistakes and cleaned things up, worked on fundamentals and scrimmaged the young guys. They’ll do similar today. Tomorrow, they’ll weight train, and then they’ll have three days of “active recovery.”
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 7:17 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:17 am to TigerFan244
So a coach who is actually coaching and not chewing grass or fighting the opposing teams fans?
I’ll take it.
I’ll take it.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:36 am to TigerFan244
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you can see BK light into players on the sidelines after a dumb play or penalty
I think the key part that many people miss is you have to earn the players' trust and respect before you can do this. You can tell BK has by how the team has been responding.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:37 am to TigerFan244
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(not as much now that he's getting old)
naw, he lights people the frick up every game
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:47 am to TigerFan244
I think people put waayyyy too much stock into what you can or can’t see a coach doing on the sidelines. People will see a coach turning purple and yelling into a player’s facemask and think: “he’s really COACHING.” And then see a coach looking calm after a bad play and think “deer in the headlights.”
What we can see on the sideline is just the tip of the iceberg. There are successful yellers and unsuccessful yellers, and there are successful non-yellers and unsuccessful non-yellers. It’s more important that the coach respond to his team in a way that will be most motivating to those particular individuals in each specific situation. The only way to judge that is by results, not by how often you see them throw a fit on the sidelines.
What we can see on the sideline is just the tip of the iceberg. There are successful yellers and unsuccessful yellers, and there are successful non-yellers and unsuccessful non-yellers. It’s more important that the coach respond to his team in a way that will be most motivating to those particular individuals in each specific situation. The only way to judge that is by results, not by how often you see them throw a fit on the sidelines.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 7:48 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:56 am to TigerFan244
What ? Saban almost choked out #34 after the punt against TN. I'd say he was definitely coaching him up in the moment.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:57 am to St8lyOaks
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I think people put waayyyy too much stock into what you can or can’t see a coach doing on the sidelines.
Goes for players too, especially LSU QBs
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:07 am to TigerFan244
Saban learned a while back that he can't relate to the youth of today. That's one reason he has younger coaches that can relate to the players. The coaches can relate to Saban, knowing if they can't deliver the message to the players, they are looking for another job.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:08 am to St8lyOaks
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What we can see on the sideline is just the tip of the iceberg. There are successful yellers and unsuccessful yellers, and there are successful non-yellers and unsuccessful non-yellers.
You make an important point. A coach's style is but a part of his overall contribution. You can have Bear Bryant type old school toughness and be successful or you can have Curley Hallman old school toughness and not be successful. On the other hand you can have a Bill Walsh or Pete Carol or Phil Jackson type approach and be successful or myriad coaches who tried that approach and were not successful.
Another thing to keep in mind is that anyone who has been in a leadership position knows that different people respond to different types of motivation. For some players, maybe the only thing that will get through to them is a forceful approach while for others that type of approach would be counterproductive. I've seen Kelly take both approaches depending on which would yield better results.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:12 am to TigerFan244
Are we acting like coaches don’t yell at players on the sidelines? The vast majority of coaches do this, even the bad ones. Fans have no idea what the coaches are doing or saying on the sideline for 99% of the game.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 8:14 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:16 am to TigerFan244
In re: Saban
This is the second best meltdown he's ever had.
First will still be he AND Muschamp losing their shite at LSU, probably because of Laron dominating.
This is the second best meltdown he's ever had.
First will still be he AND Muschamp losing their shite at LSU, probably because of Laron dominating.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:34 am to TigerFan244
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TigerFan244
Haven't watched much LSU football have you?
I can't recall any LSU coach that didn't have a sideline "coaching moment" or two with a player on occasion.
Whether that is effective or not in the opinion of the average fan depends upon that fan's view of the coach more so than the effect on the player or the visual. If you like the coach, it's a moment of sheer brilliance. If you don't like the coach it's embarrassing, degrading, cruel, and a waste of time.
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Saban used to do the same thing earlier on in his career (not as much now that he's getting old)
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:35 am to TigerFan244
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Saban used to do the same thing earlier on in his career (not as much now that he's getting old
Dude is yelling and going nuts at least once a quarter.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:37 am to BlackPot
Disciplined teams win championships
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:38 am to TigerFan244
Anyone that has ever played a sport beyond pee wee should agree this is what many coaches do, and it’s totally reasonable.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:38 am to TigerFan244
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Seen several instances now where you can see BK light into players on the sidelines after a dumb play or penalty.
It's one thing I loved about Saban while he was at LSU. When Miles took over, it was pretty disappointing to see players commit bonehead penalties or do something stupid and Miles demeanor was always the same.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:44 am to TigerFan244
Coaches that invest all into a player, or program, or team...they teach and teach and teach, and when a player goes out and fails to implement what was taught, it is incredibly frustrating.
Coaches handle it differently, but I have not problem with an arse chewing being handed out occasionally.
Coaches handle it differently, but I have not problem with an arse chewing being handed out occasionally.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:48 am to Methuselah
Kelly is a good example of this. Contrast what we’ve seen of his handling of Daniels (getting in his face on the sidelines after dumb mistakes) with his handling of Boutte (kid gloves, defending him to the media, praising him and backing him as a team leader). Different responses to two different players, and in both cases it seems to be working. That’s a sign of an emotionally intelligent coach.
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