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re: Brennan vs Johnson Part II: The Tape

Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:47 pm to
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LSU won, right? Cause that’s what you are supposed to do when you have an uneven TO margin

It took a 6th TO to win the OM game and a freak/stupid play by a defender to win UF. Otherwise, LSU eats 2 more losses. Neither had anything to do with Max.

I'm not supporting one QB over another, but using team data to shill for one guy over another is disingenuous.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:51 pm to
As long as he doesnt come right out and say it, he gets to deny he's shitting on Brennan. That's how Lester rolls.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:52 pm to
This thread is 15 pages. I haven’t once used an individual or team stat to prop up max Johnson over Brennan not once
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43822 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:53 pm to
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As long as he doesnt come right out and say it, he gets to deny he's shitting on Brennan. That's how Lester rolls.


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I haven’t once used an individual or team stat to prop up max Johnson over Brennan


See?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:55 pm to
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This thread is 15 pages. I haven’t once used an individual or team stat to prop up max Johnson over Brennan not once


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They had a 4:2 TO margin, including one defensive TD.

Myles couldn’t win a shootout at home against that trash defense, even with extra possessions & a defensive TD

Really?
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:57 pm to
So where does max factor into that as a comparison?

I’m trying to understand your angle here. What do you think I am saying?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
15723 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:00 pm to
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So where does max factor into that as a comparison? I’m trying to understand your angle here. What do you think I am saying?

Ok I got it. As long as you use separate posts to discuss each QB you aren't comparing them.

Cool semantics.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:01 pm to
If that is shitting on a player, I’m going to have to ask you to stop shitting on max!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43822 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:02 pm to
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So where does max factor into that as a comparison?
Trash.

We have 2 QBs. One will start.

15 pages of bashing Brennan's performances against Mizzou and State.
15 pages of praising Max's mobility and what that means for the offense.

But you arent comparing them. You arent fooling anyone either.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:04 pm to
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got it. As long as you use separate posts to discuss each QB you aren't comparing them.


Find one posts where I use Max’s stats to prop him up

Separate, combined or whatever.

This isn’t some conspiracy theory.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43822 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:10 pm to
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Find one posts where I use Max’s stats to prop him up


Why do you keep acting like you need to refer to Max's stats to prop him up, you fraud.

You don't even have to mention his name if all you do is diminish the only other realistic option we have at QB this season for 15 pages. How stupid are the people you hang around IRL?
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:15 pm to
Wait, so do you think I am comparing the two?

Or

Do you think I’m trying to hide that I prefer Johnson?


Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43822 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:17 pm to
If its the latter, I dont think you are doing a very good job.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285042 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:19 pm to
So should I act negatively towards you & throw a hissy fit because you prefer Brennan?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:21 pm to
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if Marco doesnt throw the shoe, we lose to Fla

The game was still tied with under 2 minutes left. LSU would have just punted and UF had their chance to tie it anyway, but they shanked the FG at home while our guy hit a 57-yarder. Florida had over 600+ yards of offense and lost because they had 3 turnovers (including a pick 6). LSU had 0 turnovers.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
15723 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:26 pm to
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Wait, so do you think I am comparing the two? Or Do you think I’m trying to hide that I prefer Johnson?

You're doing both which is fine. Why try to deflect?

I have tried to be fair to both. I got accused of propping up Max early in the thread and probably will get accused of repping for Myles in the latter part of the thread because I have countered some of your posts.

I think we have a great dilemma of 2 very good QBs for Peetz to design the offense around. I'm pulling for whoever starts.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43822 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:26 pm to
You do whatever you want lady. I just loathe your argumentative and contrarian posting style and I don't like posters dumping on good kids. I still believe in Myles, but I will root like hell for Max if he is the guy too. There's been no ambiguity about that with me.

What I WONT do is spam and gaslight the board with pages of negativity towards a college kid giving his all for the program.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75545 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:27 pm to
I think 0/10 benign used against Brennan when Johnson went 5/18 and 8/18 means people aren’t looking at the context.

The only 3rd down that matters is the last one of a drive. If you drive 30 yards before you pin and only face 1 3rd down that’s a better drive than going 11 yards before you punt and converting on 1/2 3rd downs.

So I’m the context of comparing the QBs, which is the point of this fricking thread, it’s an overplayed stats.

Johnson had just as many dead end drives (actually More) as Brennan against Florida and won.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43822 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:29 pm to
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So I’m the context of comparing the QBs, which is the point of this fricking thread


But that's not what Lester says he's doing so he must be in the wrong thread.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 1:31 pm to
I’m not deflecting anything. You are saying I’m comparing the two, and I’m not. Myles has better stats. So why would I even dip into comparing the two? Just don’t make shite up, ok?


I’m pulling for whomever is the QB too. How about that
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