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Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:20 am to
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:20 am to
We bitch when we don’t bunt. We bitch when we do bunt.

Problem is, we don’t seem to be able to.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31953 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:46 am to
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Thompson is completely worthless at the plate right now.





Eh…. I get the frustration but he was about 6” from landing at least a double twice today.

Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31953 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:47 am to
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Tommy needs to be after Tre in my opinion


He’s overthinking it. Gets at the plate and tries to kill the ball. Just do what you’ve done all season. The rest will fall in line.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:41 am to
shite, I’m still all wired up. That last ridiculously long post was meant to just be a right back to Quad. But I can’t help myself.

quote:

If you load up all of your top hitters in a back to back order, you inevitably have likely outs in a 1-2-3 order. You ideally space them out (really all of your players) somewhere 5-9.


That’s valid. But ideally that’s something you want to have done earlier in the year. It’s too late to be making knee jerk reactions based on a bad couple of games against the 2 best staffs in the game. Since moving to that lineup, I’m pretty sure last night was the only game we’ve lost that matters (I don’t think they care too much about the SECT). It’s probably not the absolute best order algorithmically, but baseball is so mental that if that’s the lineup that breeds the most confidence, it’s probably better than it should be, the whole being better than the sum of its parts, if you will.

And if the bottom guys are gonna go 1-14 or whatever, at least at the bottom they get the least amount of bats. I’m not saying you’re wrong, just kinda playing devil’s advocate. I’m not going to freak out if the lineup looks different tomorrow. I’d just be leery of changing it too drastically, because I’m not sure the potential benefit is worth the risk.

Jordan Thomspon had a streak earlier in the year when everybody was down on him and he hit a home run in 4 straight games. There was a time when people were calling for Beloso to be benched for the rest of the year, and he proceeded to hit back to back home runs with Travinksi twice in a 2 or 3 game span. Hell, just recently he had an 0-4 game and people wanted him benched again for Jones. Then he went like 4-4. Same thing happened here in Omaha, and he got a couple big hits one game and had 2 or 3 tonight.

However, Travinski hasn’t done anything at the plate in Omaha. I think he may have had a bloop single last night for his only hit. And he was really bad behind the dish last night, so I had no problem with Milazzo getting the call tonight. If Trav isn’t hitting, he really offers nothing. But when he didn’t pinch hit for Milazzo with the bases loaded in a 2-run game tonight, my 1st thought was he has to be hurt. I got a ton of downvotes for that post, but it was the only thing that made sense. And after the game, somebody mentioned that Chris Blaire said he was battling a little tweak. I don’t know if it’s really minor and he just needed a day off, or if it’s more than that and Millazo will be back behind the dish tomorrow.

All the more reason to not bunt Thomspon with 2 on and 2 outs. Even if he got it down and we had runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out, they were gonna pitch around Jonert, hoping he’d expand and punch out, worst case is they walk him to get to Millazo to set up a double play. And if he didn’t and popped up or struck out, you’re then left with Pearson to come through on a night when he couldn’t hit anything. (He did have a great about later that I’ll talk about in a second because it speaks to a really good point you made).

But back to the lineup. When we inserted Trav every day and he was hitting mammoth bombs every other game, it really extended the lineup, again, making it exponentially better than the sum of its parts. But if he did tweak something and Millazo is gonna be back there again tomorrow, the lineup is not nearly as deep and tweaking it a bit may be necessary. He’s the only guy that can actually get a bunt down, so they may need to put him somewhere where a sac bunt may be most effective. No sense in him moving the runner over only to put all your eggs in a scuffling Pearson hoping he can deliver a 2-out hit.

Tonight wasn’t his night, but I do have faith in him breaking out at any moment. And I’ll get back to a key AB he had in just a bit. So if Millazo is back tomorrow, a lineup tweak may in fact happen. But it won’t be as drastic as Tre leading off or batting 2nd in between Crews and White. Those 2 will hit back to back as long as we’re still playing.

quote:

Our bottom guys are in a slump currently, but all have shown the ability to get on a hot streak with clutch hits.


Exactly. And hitting is contagious. So back to Pearson’s leadoff AB in the 9th. I think he took a couple close pitches to work the count to 3-0. Then had the take to make it 3-1. I can’t remember if he fouled off the next pitch, took another strike, or swung and missed, but the pitcher battled back to 3-2. I think he fouled off a couple good pitches, but had a great take on a good slider that dropped out of the zone for ball 4. With the night he was having, he could have easily swung over it for a K, but showed great discipline to walk and bring Crews up with no outs.

Crews fouled one off, then took a strike to go down 0-2. Then he had a great take just off the plate to make it 1-2. He may have taken another to get it 2-2 before launching that home run to make it 5-0 and put the game out of reach for all intents and purposes. That was huge for Crews. He came in scuffling (for him, but it’s all relative), but was locked in tonight without much to show for it except that piss rocket single that almost killed their 2nd baseman. He had to be frustrated when that ball he pissed on that should have gone 450 feet got caught on the track.

You know his dream was to not only play in Omaha, but to hit at least 1 out while there. And it was like a weight was lifted, not only off Dylan, but the entire team. He’s got his mojo back and I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes off the rest of the series. So his confidence is back, and I think so is the team’s.
Everybody was hitting all year when he was, but when he went through his mini slump and home run drought, I think that affected the confidence of the entire team.

If he’s not being God-like Crews I think the rest of the guys tighten up and put more pressure on themselves to produce and they wind up playing tighter and not having as much fun. So, I think that home run was exponentially more important than just the 2 insurance runs. He’s gonna press less which will allow the rest of the guys to press less and be able to go out and have fun and play free.

Which history has shown makes them play better, with a loose confidence and swagger they’ve been lacking here in Omaha. I know Wake has great pitching, much better than what we’ll have available tomorrow.

But I don’t think we’ll need some Superman performances like Ack and Coop gave us. All the pressure will be on Wake knowing if they don’t win tomorrow, they get Skenes Thursday. And that pressure combined with what I think is gonna be a loose, confident swag we’ll bring to the park tomorrow may just make for an asskicking. I bet we score at least 8, and it wouldn’t surprise me if we scored 10+. The kraken has been unleashed.

Or I could be deluding myself and they beat us 11-2. But I’ll enjoy my delusion for at least another 16 hours or until proven otherwise.

Thanks to whoever indulged another one of my ridiculously long post. And no hard feelings to those who didn’t. I’ve never been good with the whole brevity thing. Though they say it is the sole of wit. I guess that says something about me. But I’m just so damn happy and excited right now. I love you all. Even the ones I hate. Except for Magician. frick that guy. Till tomorrow:
Posted by AHSTIGERS4LIFE
Member since Nov 2020
430 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:28 am to
Thompson needs a Kramer Robertson moment to come up big.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:59 am to
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Thompson needs a Kramer Robertson moment to come up big.


He definitely does. And I think he will. He never should have been asked to bunt. That was on Jay. But he put 2 really good swings on the ball and really barreled them both up pretty well, just missing a double each time. He pissed on that last one so hard, Vitello pulled his pitcher with a 1-2 count. Very unorthodox move. Had some nice takes too in precious at bats when he wound up striking out. Had nothing to show for it, but it looks like he’s seeing the ball better. He may be primed to break out. I think he just needs one of those to drop tomorrow and his confidence goes way up. And he’s capable of going on a big streak when he’s seeing it and is confident. He had a 4 game home run streak earlier. He’s the kind of guy that a couple big knocks in the next game (and hopefully 2) and take that into the Finals (knock on wood) and hit a couple of homers with some doubles sprinkled in.

And he did piss on one Saturday through the 6 hole to drive in a run, didn’t he? Wasn’t even really in the hole I don’t think, he hit it just to the short-stops right but it was hit so hard, he didn’t have time to even get his glove down.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
14634 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:37 am to
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Thompson hitting before Jobert in the order is puzzling??? He needs to be in the 9th hole!


Got to leave Pearson 9th. He gets on base in front of Crews a lot.
I don’t know what to say about Thompson except, he should never bunt again.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16752 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 5:05 am to
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He needs to be in the 9th hole!
or possibly pulled out completely? I know he’s better on the fielding side of things but he was even faltering on that last night.
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