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re: BK quote on Denver Harris
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:30 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:30 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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We don’t have the team to play all press man all the time
You are wasting your time with that brainless minion. As for his bullshite, I seem to recall a stupid former LSU head coach sitting on the sideline with a thumb up his arse while his new DC played press man every play vs Leach’s Air Raid. We got boatraced by a Stanford washout who was benched two games later.
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:35 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
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from 2004-18 - LSU avg being 3rd in the SEC in defense since 2018 - LSU avg being 10th in the SEC in defense
I'm legit curious which coverage we played more of during each time. Zone or man.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:33 pm to The Pirate King
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Asking a man to man corner to play zone is the height of stupidity
Thinking there are defenses in modern college football that only play man is the height of stupidity.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:36 pm to Amused Lurker
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Playing zone is a must in todays game. You can’t have the DBs always play with their backs to the QB. RPOs and QBs will gash you if the CBs and DBs are not supporting run also. You see teams play a base zone and run man to man to mix it up with pressure.
Zone only works when you have a great pass rush. Zone gets sliced and diced anytime your pass rush doesn’t get home I absolutely hate zone coverage
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:39 pm to misey94
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You are wasting your time with that brainless minion. As for his bullshite, I seem to recall a stupid former LSU head coach sitting on the sideline with a thumb up his arse while his new DC played press man every play vs Leach’s Air Raid. We got boatraced by a Stanford washout who was benched two games later.
I mean to be fair Stingley was out for that game
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:07 am to Cd104444
The problem isn’t playing a little zone here and there. The issue is it is the main system for House and is generally a defense suited to account for limited athletic ability in your DBs. Man coverage is generally more effective when you have athletic and more instinct driven players.
House needed Zone at UK because they have significantly fewer athletic DBs compared to their opponents.
LSU’s defenses have gotten worse and more inconsistent as they have shifted these last few years to heavier zone coverage. That isn’t new.
Also, just because there was one game where it merited zone coverage (MSU in 2020) doesn’t mean your entire defense should be built around that.
House needed Zone at UK because they have significantly fewer athletic DBs compared to their opponents.
LSU’s defenses have gotten worse and more inconsistent as they have shifted these last few years to heavier zone coverage. That isn’t new.
Also, just because there was one game where it merited zone coverage (MSU in 2020) doesn’t mean your entire defense should be built around that.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:04 am to Cd104444
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Zone only works when you have a great pass rush. Zone gets sliced and diced anytime your pass rush doesn’t get home I absolutely hate zone coverage
You are the opposite of Nick Saban then. Zone coverages in todays game aren't what you think. They get incredibly complex and involve pattern matching more than the traditional cover an area zone from the past. Hell Saban's cover 4 has like 5 different variations now.
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Zone gets sliced and diced anytime your pass rush doesn’t get home
The same can be said for man coverage. Literally every single coverage has a weakness and if the offense knows what coverage you are in you are in trouble. That's why teams disguise coverages so much. You'll also see teams play different coverages on different sides of the field. for example Quarter Quarter Half coverage. Cover 4 to the strong side and Cover 2 to the weak side.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:11 am to BornAndRaised_LA
I hate that the corners play so far back a lot of times.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:54 am to PP7 for heisman
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Changing your entire defensive scheme that has worked at every stop you've ever been because of one man corner is the height of stupidity.
What is ND/Kelly record vs SEC?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:06 am to redfishfan
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Thinking there are defenses in modern college football that only play man is the height of stupidity.
Didn't we play "man" in our championship run in 19?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:54 am to BornAndRaised_LA
Still curious to see how we adjust defensively the rest of the season and see if we start to apply pressure and create more turnovers/stops.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:43 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
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LSU is currently DEAD LAST in the SEC in Defense. Not exactly a high water mark. Matt House's seat should be on fire right about now. if you are a coordinator, and your side of the ball is as inept as we've been on defense, you shouldn't stick around long.
from 2004-18 - LSU avg being 3rd in the SEC in defense
since 2018 - LSU avg being 10th in the SEC in defense
our current defensive productivity is unacceptable. the only worse year has been 2020, when we finished 13th in the league. being 14th of 14 SEC teams in defense isn't going to cut it here. we are only 2 games in, but this is not getting it done.
Why are you even bringing up 2018-2021?
Last season, LSU finished 6th in the SEC in Total Defense & 6th in Scoring Defense.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:21 pm to Gus007
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Didn't we play "man" in our championship run in 19?
Of course. Every team runs almost ever coverage. Aranda is known for his zone blitzes though so nice try.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:23 pm to The Pirate King
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The Pirate King
Everything this board says about you is true. Congratulations that’s a first.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:31 pm to ExpoTiger
There’s a legitimate possibility that the guy is Ponamsky.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:39 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
so let him play press man. We certainly could use some of that rather than 7-10 yd gaps where receivers can just do whatever they wish off the line. When LSU was DBU....I can still remember the good old days....they played press man defense on the corners with deep zones with the safeties. Now our safeties drop totally out of the picture on tv...and that is way off the los...opening the middle of the field wide open with receivers in stride. FSU killed us with that alignment, and so will others if we continue the same alignment on every defensive play, like we have been doing.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:38 pm to classicgold
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There’s a legitimate possibility that the guy is Ponamsky.
Would make sense
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