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re: best player under johnny jones
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:09 am to tigabait01
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:09 am to tigabait01
i liked carmouche and coleman! they played their butts off! not most talented but very impactful players!
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:10 am to Bad Medicine
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Ben Simmons. This isn't even a question
this
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:11 am to Bad Medicine
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Ben Simmons. This isn't even a question
This, we've had some good ones, but it's Simmons no question
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:14 am to thunderbird1100
If we're talking strictly the best basketball player...Simmons and its not close.
Now we can all debate who was best player in terms of fan appreciation, tenure, production, W's-L's, etc....
Now we can all debate who was best player in terms of fan appreciation, tenure, production, W's-L's, etc....
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 8:15 am
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:15 am to tigabait01
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Simmons and Mickey both had many lazy moments, so they leave a negative impression.
I agree, I think they both tended to play when they felt like it.
And that is one of my main issues with CJJ, unfortunately this type of thing was allowed to often without real consequences.
I think you saw the manifestation of that culture last year in spades.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:16 am to AlecRock23
You're arguing which team was better. Martin is not better than Simmons as an individual player. Martin was on a pretty good team with Mickey. The team sucked last year but that's not on Simmons. More on guys like Quarterman throwing up garbage the whole game.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:33 am to AlecRock23
By best player under Jones I assume you mean performance-wise not talent-wise.
1. Mickey - Defensive monster, led the NCAA in blocks his sophomore year, rebound machine, also averaged 14ppg. Only LSU player besides Shaq with 100+ blocks in a season.
2. Simmons - Scored at will, but behind Mickey for me because he was weak defensively.
3. Martin - Great all-around player his sophomore year.
4. Hornsby - Very consistent shooter. Ole Miss 3 at the buzzer.
1. Mickey - Defensive monster, led the NCAA in blocks his sophomore year, rebound machine, also averaged 14ppg. Only LSU player besides Shaq with 100+ blocks in a season.
2. Simmons - Scored at will, but behind Mickey for me because he was weak defensively.
3. Martin - Great all-around player his sophomore year.
4. Hornsby - Very consistent shooter. Ole Miss 3 at the buzzer.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:46 am to AlecRock23
Ben Simmons, and it isn't even close.
Look at the skill set. Don't look at the team's W/L record.
I don't think the NBA Analysts got it wrong having Simmons #1 overall, while Jarell Martin got taken 25th overall in a draft prior.
Look at the skill set. Don't look at the team's W/L record.
I don't think the NBA Analysts got it wrong having Simmons #1 overall, while Jarell Martin got taken 25th overall in a draft prior.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:51 am to FIRE_coachesname
Absolutely Ben Simmons.. This is a joke...
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:01 pm to AlecRock23
Ben Simmons eats Jordan Mickey for breakfast and defecates Jarell Martin.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:03 pm to ColeLSU
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Now we can all debate who was best player in terms of fan appreciation, tenure, production, W's-L's, etc....
"best player" is pretty cut and dry.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:05 pm to AlecRock23
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martin had wayyyy more of an impact! he stayed 2 years and brought LSU to the NCAA tourney! not to mention the amazing dunks
listen dude
this is about the best player
not who you liked better, or who had the more impact
Simmons is a better player than martin- period
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:07 pm to ZBeaux10
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More on guys like Quarterman throwing up garbage the whole game.
right
the vitriol on this board for Simmons is sad
Do I wish he showed more emotion? Take over games more often? yes
but there are plenty of other areas of the program to point a finger before you get to the guy who averaged a double double.
Hornsby injury, JJ just not being a good bball coach, Quarterman's inability to realize he was not ever "the man" and taking horribly bad shots and hanging on to the ball for far too long as well as lazy passing
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:08 pm to josh336
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Ben simmons and not really debateable
Seriously?
Simmons had the best STATS. That much isn't debatable. I would argue both Mickey and Martin had more of an impact on the outcome of a game.
Mickey's defense pretty much willed us into the tournament his final year here.
The fact that this year's team looks to be about equal to if not slightly better than last year's team should say something about Simmons as a player.
Great players win. Great players lead. There's more to it than being a freak athlete who was essentially a layup and put-back specialist on offense.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:10 pm to Number 31
dude
it's a simple concept and you're attempting to muddy up the waters to suite your narrative
Simmons is the best individual player under Johnny Jones, and this isn't debatable. Every goddamn NBA GM would agree with me.
Christ.
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best player under johnny jones
it's a simple concept and you're attempting to muddy up the waters to suite your narrative
Simmons is the best individual player under Johnny Jones, and this isn't debatable. Every goddamn NBA GM would agree with me.
Christ.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:11 pm to Number 31
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Simmons had the best STATS. That much isn't debatable. I would argue both Mickey and Martin had more of an impact on the outcome of a game.
Mickey and Martin as second year pros couldn't handle high school junior Ben Simmons, much less LSU freshman Ben Simmons.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:14 pm to therick711
bro, but they were more impactful and I liked them better because Simmons never actually cared about LSU!!1
fricking embarrassing fans
fricking embarrassing fans
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:16 pm to cas4t
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bro, but they were more impactful and I liked them better because Simmons never actually cared about LSU!!1
LSU fans are still in the era of learning that coaching matters. In about two years, they'll get another taste when we step down in acumen with football yet again.
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