re: Athlon Coach Rankings - Ed O at 81

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Tiger Ree

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Wether you like it or not ed Orgeron has never in his life proven he can run a successful side of the ball nor has he ever proven he can run a successful program. The only time an AD trusted him enough to let him actually put his finger prints on a program it ended in the worst tenure ever at a program full of shitty tenures.


Facts. Not of your bullshite OPINIONS change that.


Tom Herman has proven he can run a successful offense. FACT
TOM Herman has proven he can run a successful program. FACT.


None of the above statements mean I'm obsessed with Tom Herman. They mean I live in reality. Even our clown AD knows Herman is better football coach.

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Mental gymnastics is tigerretard not giving Herman credit for his 1st year at Houston because it wasnt his program and then touting an interim tenure as proof O has changed.

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Mental gymnastics is actually not paying attention to what the kissing-bandit did in his second year. The year when he had two whole seasons to install his system and with a team who by-far had the most talent in the conference wound up in sixth place. That's some mental/heavy breathing/horny gymnastics to not see that shite.

How miraculous does a coach have to be to have the most talented team in a conference and finish in sixth place? I would think that would be a difficult task. But Tom Herman sucked enough to do it.

What was Les Miles worst finish in the SEC?

You want me to post the picture of him wearing his construction helmet? I know you love that one. Oh, how about the giff with him falling over after swinging the sledge-hammer sideways?

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Tiger Ree

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This is a response from an anonymous poster to someone, maybe me, calling bullshite on the stated condition that Coach O keep Dave Aranda or he wouldn't get the job.

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Take a step back and this. You are far too emotional about it. And you'd have better success if you quit with the insults. It is childish, and you're just showing people how insecure you really are.

Plus, you're clearly wrong or lack critical thinking skills.

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Retaining Aranda was a key component in the search for the next head coach, and university leaders believed the hiring of Orgeron would keep Aranda in Baton Rouge. He reciprocated those feelings to LSU officials, sources told The Advocate, and he stayed true to his word, accepting the new deal.

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In a meeting Saturday morning, Orgeron and athletic director Joe Alleva agreed on the new proposed deal for Aranda — something Orgeron hinted at during his news conference later that day. “Joe and I had a great conversation about Dave,” he said. “I feel confident he's going to be with us.” +

Aranda's new contract is expected to keep him in Baton Rouge instead of with potential other suitors, including Texas. Tom Herman, the former Houston coach hired by Texas on Saturday, and Aranda were members of the same college football team at Cal Lutheran. Orgeron’s future staff — specifically his coordinators — was integral to his hiring as the Tigers' full-time coach.

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Read between the lines. It's also rare that an AD has that much input and influence on Coordinator positions since it's really the head coaches call. Alleva's involvement pretty much says he's wary of trusting Ed hiring people and Alleva is pushing for certain things. These are not good things. AD should have very little say about Coordinators beyond how much they cost.

What metric are you using to determine Houston had the most talented team in the conference?

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What metric are you using to determine Houston had the most talented team in the conference?

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His argument is literally one of the dumbest arguments ever on a board full of dumb arguments.
He doesnt give miles credit for his 1st 3 years at lsu because of Saban's recruits and in the same post wants us to give O credit for an interim tenure. It's mindblowingly dumb.

Rick dabo never ran a successful side of the ball Miles never did before OSU hired him he was a tight ends coach. Bobby Bowden wasn't a guru of any side of the ball neither was Holtz and plenty of othe successful coaches. O has been around a long time he's been second in command he's been a head coach he's done a great job coaching dlinemen he knows football he's a great recruiter he has a vast network of relationships with other coaches who are potential down the road coordinators. He'll recruit he'll motivate he's brought a more nfl style way of preparation and practice he doesn't need to call plays he only needs to make decisions in situational football and personnel. This is not uncharted waters plenty of coaches have taken this route and had great success.

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Orgeron has never in his life proven he can run a successful side of the ball nor has he ever proven he can run a successful program

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You didn't notice where he took USC from 4-7 to 5-2 and LSU from 4-5 to 6-2 huh? He did what the other guys were fired for not being able to do. Since then he has hired to only Broyles Award Candidate as OC. You don't like the hire?

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The only time an AD trusted him enough to let him actually put his finger prints on a program it ended in the worst tenure ever at a program full of shitty tenures.

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No finger prints on the LSU program? Which one do you disagree with?

1) Fired Cam Cameron
2) Fired Bradley Dale Peveto
3) Fired Dameyune Craig (recruiting coordinator last class - had a WR committed since the previous year and found out on signing day the guy would not qualify. Not a good WR's coach.
4) Fired Jabar Juluke - RB coach responsible for Derrius Guice going the wrong way and missing out on every RB recruit except one.

5) Extended Dave Aranda.

6) Promoted Dennis Johnson (Meatball) who out-recruited Tom Herman for K'lavon Chaisson. He was and may still be the nation's #1 rated recruiter for the 2018 class.

7) Hired Tommie Robinson RB coach - the nation's #1 rated recruiter for the 2017 class. Has coached in the NFL as well as college.
8) Hired Matt Canada OC - the only Broyles award candidate on the offensive side of the ball last season.
9) Hired Mickey Joseph WR - has life long ties to the New Orleans and Louisiana and has been recruiting the area for years.
10) Hired Pete Jenkins DL - Probably the most well known and acclaimed D-Line coach in football - college and pro.

11) Is changing the culture of LSU football for the better as has been mentioned by several current and former players and outsiders alike.

Yeah, none of that is putting his fingerprint on the LSU program.

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Tom Herman has proven he can run a successful offense. FACT
TOM Herman has proven he can run a successful program. FACT

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I already disputed this shite earlier in this very thread. Go look. To recap the guy who runs on side of the ball gained 303 yards in a 38-16 loss to a team (SMU) that Herman was favored to beat by 23 points. Successful????

Herman gained 287 total yards offense against Tulane who went 1-7 in the mighty AAC.

Both of those facts are leaving out the other FACT that Houston had way more talent than the other 5 teams that finished ahead of and kicked Tom Herman's arse.

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None of the above statements mean I'm obsessed with Tom Herman

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So your unnatural love for the guy who finished in sixth place in a conference where he had the most talent is not obsession. Got it, Got it, Got it. What did you say again? the sixth place with the most talented team is good? No obsession here, just curious.

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Even our clown AD knows Herman is better football coach.

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The clown AD knew not to overpay for a guy who finished 4th in his division and 6th in his conference. Take note

You are kicking arse tonight Ricky.... so far there is nothing you have said that I disagree with.....

I'll be fair... LSU should have given Herman a blank check.... he would have had a ton more talent to work with here than in Texas.....

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!


Can't argue facts......