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re: Athlon Coach Rankings - Ed O at 81

Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:18 pm to
Lmfao I don't listen to the idiots you worship you two are setting new lows in ignorance. Constantly accusing ppl of listening to propaganda while constantly referencing propaganda peddlers you listen to lmfao this is priceless.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Yes I do, I've said many times in this thread he had 1 quality win as IHC over Stanford. He also lost to UCLA and Notre Dame. They were 10-3 and 9-4.


shite, that's horrible. You mean Coach O took over a team that was 3-2 with wins against Hawaii, Boston College and Utah State (17-14) and losses to Washington State and Arizona State (62-41).

Then went 5-2 beating the #4 team in the country and lost to two freaking teams with winning records. How horrible. I wonder who USC's biggest all-time rivals are and where these game played?

I'm kidding - I don't wonder and know USC's biggest rivals are ND and UCLA and the ND game was on the road. I know you wouldn't have answered my question anyway.

Nobody ever answers my questions.

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His wins at LSU as IHC: Missouri 4-8, USM 7-6, OM 5-7, Arky 7-6, TAMU 8-5 what was the quality win?


Considering he was down in coaching staff, had a TE coach playing OC and no special teams coach, I would say all but maybe the Missouri and Ole Miss wins. It's not like he had the staff then that he does now.

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Please note you belittled Miles beating TAMU and that he clobbered Arky and OM after Miles lost to them


Do you still want CLM to be the head coach at LSU?

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I also can not count Louisville as a quality win since they lost to UH and Tom Herman who as you know lost to SMU and Navy added: and MEMPHIS


Louisville also lost to Kentucky, so I agree.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:27 pm to
That's funny, because I've seen people that think O was a good hire say some of the most ignorant shite I've ever heard in my 31 years on Earth. The goalposts have already been moved multiple times for him, and the excuses are already lined up. There is absolutely no reasonable justification for him being hired, no matter how much you and your cronies try to twist facts.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:28 pm to
lol what about beating eventual national champ Alabama in Tuscaloosa and top 5 Arkansas plus beating UGA in the SECCG and beating the eventual PAC 12 and Big East champs? State, Auburn and UF weren't world beaters but did end up with winning records. That was objectively one of the toughest schedules LSU has ever played and it's pretty hilarious that you'd choose 2011 of all seasons to attempt to discredit Les
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:30 pm to
When O leads us to 4 losses this year, a major talking point will be "It's the SEC, the toughest conference in the country!!! We played at FL, TN and Bama!!!"
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:31 pm to
12 wins between 6 teams lmfao yea you're really smart. Btw as usual you've twisted and derailed the subject he named teams he didn't consider quality wins so I presented worse teams in 2011 that nobody's ever complained about. I didn't say anything to delegitimize what Miles accomplished. You're seriously too dumb and too dishonest to even converse with
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:32 pm to
And it's not like the 2011 team simply beat most of those teams. With the exception of the Bama game and State it was a complete dismantling. I honestly don't know why I'm even addressing this. Calling the 2011 schedule weak goes so far beyond delusion that it boggles my mind
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:33 pm to
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12 wins between 6 teams lmfao yea you're really smart.

What?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:33 pm to
Once again you don't know what you're taking about and derailing the topic. I never said he was the right hire I've said multiple times I was against it but the things you ppl are using to attack him are not only one sided they're totally subjective and have no merit. it's a total double standard argument.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:33 pm to
When I say the the records are meaningless I mean in terms of evaluating the coach. Individual or team records are nice and something the players should celebrate.

As far as them responding and playing better yes they did, but the standard isn't better than Miles was the last 2 years. Clearly the program was stale and Mikes fatigue wasn't just limited to fans. But that doesn't mean because O did better in a short period vs mostly bad/mediocre teams hes going to continue that going forward. Like I said I don't want to be 9-3 with a better offense than Miles.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:34 pm to
The 6 teams I mentioned combined for 12 sec wins yet you are spinning it like they were murderes row.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:37 pm to
His win pct was higher than Miles last 2 years
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:38 pm to
2011 was known for being a particularly hard schedule for LSU. IIRC there was some kind of record set that year by number of wins against ranked opponents.

I don't think I've seen somebody be as consistently terrible and wrong as this madking guy. He's like this on every subject that I have seen him post about on this site. I think maybe it has something to do with being too stupid to realize that you can't be so certain of yourself.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:38 pm to
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the things you ppl are using to attack him are not only one sided they're totally subjective and have no merit. it's a total double standard argument.


I guess you don't like facts, especially since you're now trying to downplay the amazing 2011 season, and what that team did that year. You're bringing up the lesser teams, while ignoring the good teams that we curb stomped that season. Double standard much?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:40 pm to
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There is absolutely no reasonable justification for him being hired, no matter how much you and your cronies try to twist facts


Not even one? Not his vision of the future of the LSU football program?

Let me ask a simple question that I have more times than I could even count and see if you may possibly be the first to answer or be like the countless others and log out:

Question:
Which one of these moves do you disagree with and makes you think LSU will be worse this coming season than they were last season?

1) Fired Cam Cameron
2) Fired Bradley Dale Peveto
3) Fired Dameyune Craig (recruiting coordinator last class - had a WR committed since the previous year and found out on signing day the guy would not qualify. Not a good WR's coach.
4) Fired Jabar Juluke - RB coach responsible for Derrius Guice going the wrong way and missing out on every RB recruit except one.

5) Extended Dave Aranda.

6) Promoted Dennis Johnson (Meatball) who out-recruited Tom Herman for K'lavon Chaisson. He was and may still be the nation's #1 rated recruiter for the 2018 class.

7) Hired Tommie Robinson RB coach - the nation's #1 rated recruiter for the 2017 class. Has coached in the NFL as well as college.
8) Hired Matt Canada OC - the only Broyles award candidate on the offensive side of the ball last season.
9) Hired Mickey Joseph WR - has life long ties to the New Orleans and Louisiana and has been recruiting the area for years.
10) Hired Pete Jenkins DL - Probably the most well known and acclaimed D-Line coach in football - college and pro.

11) Is changing the culture of LSU football for the better as has been mentioned by several current and former players and outsiders alike.

If you don't answer, I will understand. Nobody else has.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:40 pm to
God you ppl are stupid the two comparisons arnt mutually exclusive. The 2011 schedule was difficult because of Uga Bama and the non conf. That has nothing to do with what I posted and it doesn't make a 6 team stretch where those teams combined for 12 wins better. You're an idiot.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:40 pm to
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The 6 teams I mentioned combined for 12 sec wins

And UGA, Bama and Arkansas combined for 20
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:41 pm to
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2011 was known for being a particularly hard schedule for LSU. IIRC there was some kind of record set that year by number of wins against ranked opponents. I don't think I've seen somebody be as consistently terrible and wrong as this madking guy. He's like this on every subject that I have seen him post about on this site. I think maybe it has something to do with being too stupid to realize that you can't be so certain of yourself.


It was a record for wins against ranked opponents, not sure if it still is, though. And yes, this guy and Tigerreetard are pretty dumb. They'll call you out for doing things, while they don't realize they're doing the exact same thing...
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:41 pm to
It's like cross species communication you ppl are so ignorant
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Then went 5-2 beating the #4 team in the country and lost to two freaking teams with winning records. How horrible. I wonder who USC's biggest all-time rivals are and where these game played


I've also pointed multiple times he lost to USCs 2 biggest rivals. i.e. the games fans most want to win.

The rest of your comment is a classic straw man. No one said his IHC record was horrible. I said it's fools gold. He beat the teams he should have and lost to 4 of the 5 quality teams he played. Unlike you I do not cherry pick points to support my point.

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a TE coach playing OC and no special teams coach


The TE coach had experience as an offensive coordinator and the ST coach may have been bad was still in fact in staff.

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Do you still want CLM to be the head coach at LSU?


Nope that doesn't mean I wanted O or that O will do better overall.
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