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re: As the season draws closer and closer, Oregon fans get crazier and crazier
Posted on 5/26/11 at 3:19 pm to bisonduck
Posted on 5/26/11 at 3:19 pm to bisonduck
i saw all of the tenn, ucla and natl champ. games. i saw most of ar. st. game. Like everyone, i was in awe of your offense, but then i remember that they wer not playing any kind of a defense. your interior line goes 295-270-285 which is lite by sec standards, you have one big OT and another small one; your defensive players when they have weight, they are short. whene they have speed, they lack size, etc. there is a reason that Lache and Darron chickened out and went to a lighter weight program and conference (unless it was the kindbud), and that reason is that they didn't want to have to grind it out everyday in practice against the caliber of defensive players that LSU recruits. your rb's are all small. the big back is done i guess. how are you going to run the ball? how are you going to pass the ball to anyone other than tunei (is your te any good?)?
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Posted on 5/26/11 at 3:19 pm to bisonduck
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That was last year, the first year the blur kicked in.
The "blur," like all gimmick offenses, will easily be stopped with a summer to prepare for it. I seriously hope your backups on defense are good because those 15 second 3 and outs are going to lead to a whole heck of a lot of rotation. More rotation than LSU is going to need for sure.
Posted on 5/26/11 at 3:22 pm to EricB
The Blur is most effective when the offense is not in as good of shape as the defense, correct? This isn't the New England Patriots being able to spread out a 3 TE set.
Posted on 5/26/11 at 3:22 pm to CLDuck
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You don't understand the blur offense. You won't have time to substitute. You could be 12 deep and it won't mean a thing if you don't have time to get a fresh body on the field. You will do well to get back to the line of scrimmage and get a defensive play called before the ball is snapped. Didn't you see the YouTubes of players faking injuries against Oregon so they could get a rest? That was last year, the first year the blur kicked in. The Ducks will be even quicker this year. That is how the Ducks play it. If your defense can keep up, great, but you won't get many opportunities to substitute.
When you are doing pussy shite like that, what makes you think we won't just have a guy fall down when we want to substitute? Besides, that only works when your offense is moving the ball, and I don't think your OL is going to allow much of that.
Posted on 5/26/11 at 3:37 pm to Hired Gun
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i saw all of the tenn, ucla and natl champ. games. i saw most of ar. st. game. Like everyone, i was in awe of your offense, but then i remember that they wer not playing any kind of a defense. your interior line goes 295-270-285 which is lite by sec standards, you have one big OT and another small one; your defensive players when they have weight, they are short. whene they have speed, they lack size, etc. there is a reason that Lache and Darron chickened out and went to a lighter weight program and conference (unless it was the kindbud), and that reason is that they didn't want to have to grind it out everyday in practice against the caliber of defensive players that LSU recruits. your rb's are all small. the big back is done i guess. how are you going to run the ball? how are you going to pass the ball to anyone other than tunei (is your te any good?)?
Our interior line will be Cody 296, Armstrong, and York (286). Armstrong came out of high school at 300 pounds and is now listed on the AD site at 260. I asked on a premium board for a moderater that goes to all the practices and interviews the players to tell me if this was accurate. The gentleman said he looks and plays a lot like Enoka Lucas, a center that went to the NFL that played at 290. Armstrong has been listed at 285-290 and coming out of high school he was heavy weight champion. So, I doubt the 300 was 40 pounds of extra weight. The kid is our most intriguing prospect that I can remember. He is our strongest line and ran the fastest shuttle time.
York is a guy that started two years ago as a redshirt frosh. He is now redshirt junior going into next year. He has 22 starts and at 286 he played the best game in the NCG. Not worried here.
Cody has been a key reserve the past two years and has gotten the nod twice as a starter.
Our tackles are Weems (305) and Asper (325). Weems had every offer you can imagine including Florida. He started eight games and if Urban wanted him as a tackle. Let's suffice it to say that he is SEC size enough. Asper is 325 and 24 game starter on a Rose Bowl and NCG roster. 'Nuff said.
Anyway, I don't blame you for thinking Armstrong is 270 but wanted to shed light.
Our staff wants our interior to pull and lateral movement is a premium. So, they will be lighter than yours. Make no mistake, Cody, York, Amrstrong, and Weems were highly sough after PSAs.
This post was edited on 5/26/11 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 5/26/11 at 4:52 pm to LSUintheNW
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5. LSU hasn't played an OOC game outside the state of Louisiana in 5 years.
This isn't true.
What game did I miss?
Posted on 5/26/11 at 4:53 pm to GoDucks349
Washington at Washington
Posted on 5/26/11 at 4:53 pm to GoDucks349
Udub
This post was edited on 5/26/11 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 5/26/11 at 4:56 pm to Mayhawman
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5. LSU hasn't played an OOC game outside the state of Louisiana in 5 years.
You amazingly forgot to include a PAC 10 loss.
Sep. 5 vs Washington W 31-23 Seattle
And why not include bowl games in your research? Not much fun then?
I was wondering about that Washington game. I'd swear the schedule I looked at said it was an LSU home game. That would be my mistake. As for bowl games, the thread was started about OOC games so I was staying with that. Those are game sights scheduled by the universities. It only made sense to not include them.
Posted on 5/26/11 at 5:07 pm to GoDucks349
Frankly, this game is more like a bowl game than anything else. Two top teams played on a neutral field.
EDT: ...And both teams have plenty of time to prepare, and will be rested and at least nearly injury free.
EDT: ...And both teams have plenty of time to prepare, and will be rested and at least nearly injury free.
This post was edited on 5/26/11 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 5/26/11 at 5:19 pm to DocBugbear
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As the season draws closer and closer, Oregon fans get crazier and crazier
Frankly, this game is more like a bowl game than anything else. Two top teams played on a neutral field.
EDT: ...And both teams have plenty of time to prepare, and will be rested and at least nearly injury free.
Agree completely!!!
Posted on 5/26/11 at 5:22 pm to GoDucks349
UNC in Atlanta as well
Posted on 5/26/11 at 7:20 pm to EricB
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The "blur," like all gimmick offenses
I laugh when people say we have a gimmick Offense. But no one seems to provide evidence to support their case.
If it was just a "gimmick" then why do the droves of other College Football (and tons of NFL) Coaches show up often to sit in on Oregon's practices? Why is everyone in awe of the Oregon Blur Offense? For instance, why did former N.F.L. coach Jon Gruden almost take the OC job at Oregon a while back just to learn this new offense? His wife would not let him move to Oregon and said, 'Are you the craziest human being alive, you want to move to Oregon to learn an offense?’
“I said: ‘But Cindy, it’s the Oregon spread. It’s unbelievable.’ She didn’t see it from my point of view.” NY Times Article on Oregon
If Oregon has just a "gimmick" Offense then why did Tenn's head coach Dooley say after reviewing much game film before that big game, "Oregon is fast, physical, and doesn't have a weakness". SEC Coach Dooley on Oregon
He said this before the game, just by studying lots of film. And that game turned out the biggest lopsided defeat ever for any Tenn team at Neyland Stadium's history.
And if Oregon's Offense is only a "Gimmick" then why did another SEC coach last year, UF Coach Meyer say he was toying with the idea of copying Oregon's Offense and if Florida had it, "It could be lethal." Coach Meyer wanted what Oregon had
Our "Gimmick" Offense as you call it put up 611 points while we held our opponents to 243 last year.
I find it funny of the level of Jealousy with Oregon's Offense. Those that wish they had it, are the same ones that call it Gimmick.
The Oregon "Blur" Offense (as what it's called) is a very simple formula of 4 basic styles of football rolled into one, with a added cheery on top- the rapid pace of execution. Chip Kelly Combines elements of:
A)The pistol set.
B)The single-wing run fakes used since football became a sport.
C)The triple-option.
D)And the spread set.
The blur offense then combines these four existing ideas while executing really quickly.
Hundreds of high schools and colleges around the nation have been rushing to try to copy what Chip Kelly invented in the Oregon Blur.
And how many Coaches across America have been waiting in line to try to see LSU's Amazing Offense? And how many are trying to copy it?
If you want to however read more about how the Blur works and educate yourself, click here: What the Oregon Blur is and why the rave.
Posted on 5/26/11 at 7:22 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Wow... You are really gonna be pissed when we shut your offense down...
Posted on 5/26/11 at 7:26 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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DucksflyinPAC
Lulz. The only thing different about your offense is your pace at which you run it.
Posted on 5/26/11 at 8:16 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Posted on 5/26/11 at 8:52 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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If Oregon has just a "gimmick" Offense then why did Tenn's head coach Dooley say after reviewing much game film before that big game, "Oregon is fast, physical, and doesn't have a weakness". SEC Coach Dooley on Oregon
He said this before the game, just by studying lots of film.
Dooley's still studying the benefits of his "13th Man" Defense.
Posted on 5/26/11 at 9:32 pm to Hitchcock
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Dooley's still studying the benefits of his "13th Man" Defense
:rotflmao:Posted on 5/26/11 at 9:56 pm to GoDucks349
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5. LSU hasn't played an OOC game outside the state of Louisiana in 5 years.
I'm thinking UNC in Atlanta last year.
Posted on 5/26/11 at 9:58 pm to Hitchcock
What I'm thinking most is both teams will likely have a bunch of cobwebs to dust off. I think cobwebs would effect the Ducks more than LSU. Why? Well, LSUs Offense has been pretty insignificant for a while. So an already horrible offense may be out of sync... oh no... woe is me. But an offense like the Ducks running on cobwebs may very well be effected.
Personally I think the earlier in the season we play Oregon, the better chance LSU has to win. The Ducks offense late in the season, running on all cylinders would be much tougher.
Cobwebs effect teams like bad weather does. A team that doesn't live and die by their offense isn't as effected by either cobwebs or bad weather. You give bad weather or poor execution to the UO offense, and it's a hell of a lot easier for the opponent.
But I'm still worried about UO. LSU always plays down to OOC teams... especially early in the season...
UNC
McNeese
UW
LaTech
Troy x2
ASU
OSU
All these were teams we should have won by a lot more than we did. We still won, but thats my point... we had a much harder time than we should have.
You can talk size, speed, LSU D, UO Offense all you want but I think the winner will be the one who comes in to the season with less rust and cobwebs. Simple as that. One single facet of the game... period.
Personally I think the earlier in the season we play Oregon, the better chance LSU has to win. The Ducks offense late in the season, running on all cylinders would be much tougher.
Cobwebs effect teams like bad weather does. A team that doesn't live and die by their offense isn't as effected by either cobwebs or bad weather. You give bad weather or poor execution to the UO offense, and it's a hell of a lot easier for the opponent.
But I'm still worried about UO. LSU always plays down to OOC teams... especially early in the season...
UNC
McNeese
UW
LaTech
Troy x2
ASU
OSU
All these were teams we should have won by a lot more than we did. We still won, but thats my point... we had a much harder time than we should have.
You can talk size, speed, LSU D, UO Offense all you want but I think the winner will be the one who comes in to the season with less rust and cobwebs. Simple as that. One single facet of the game... period.
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