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Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:41 pm to redfish99
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No true point guard next year is only concern . I know we’re looking for one in portal.
We havent had a "true point guard" start under Wade since Waters left, and even then he was a scoring "true" point guard.
It's not important for Wade. He'd rather a capable scoring ball handler than a guy who can average 6-8 assists a game but limited offensively otherwise. Last year Smart was our starting PG and the year before that Sky Mays.
Wade recruits a lot of combo guards like Smart, Williams, Miller, Pinson, etc because he wants offensively capable ball handlers in general.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:48 pm to Lester Earl
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Miller will start at PG next year unless Pinson comes back
I agree..but man Miller really excels at catch and shoot. Would be really nice if we could find a true pt guard to pair with Miller.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 1:54 pm to TigerMonkey7
We gon’ be pretty seriously good the next couple of seasons.
Just gotta get hot and all healthy at the right time and we’ll be hanging a championship banner in the pmac, before they build us a new arena to take it’s place.
Just gotta get hot and all healthy at the right time and we’ll be hanging a championship banner in the pmac, before they build us a new arena to take it’s place.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:03 pm to Genestealer55
Miller can score & set up other guys. Murray & Williams will be great scorers. So I think he’ll be fine playing off of those guys.
Any good guard should shoot really well in catch & shoot opportunities. It’s a basic fundamental skill
Any good guard should shoot really well in catch & shoot opportunities. It’s a basic fundamental skill
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:08 pm to Lester Earl
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Miller can score & set up other guys. Murray & Williams will be great scorers. So I think he’ll be fine playing off of those guys. Any good guard should shoot really well in catch & shoot opportunities. It’s a basic fundamental skill
He can definitely score..but his last full season averaging 25.5 minutes per game…he averaged 0.8 assists. He’s definitely not a true PG
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:15 pm to Genestealer55
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He can definitely score..but his last full season averaging 25.5 minutes per game…he averaged 0.8 assists. He’s definitely not a true PG
Miller was not asked to play PG at all at Illinois, they had that covered. Miller was a combo guard coming out of high school, he averaged 5-6 assists a game. He can be a primary ball handler no problem, which is why he played the point for the U-19 USA team this past summer. We have no need for a "true" PG under Wade. We've lived without on the the last 3 seasons between Pinson, Smart and Mays starting the point.
True high assist PGs are becoming less and less a thing in today's more 1 on 1 basketball. Wade loves 1 on 1 scoring so it's not likely we see many high assist, low offensive output PGs like a Rajon Rondo come through here under him.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:20 pm to thunderbird1100
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Miller was not asked to play PG at all at Illinois, they had that covered.
You’re making my point..all I’m saying is that it would be nice to have a guy who is more suited to play PG to let Adam Miller be the SG he was meant to be. Do I think he would make a good enough PG for LSU if we needed it..sure. I just think he was meant to be a SG.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:26 pm to Genestealer55
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You’re making my point..all I’m saying is that it would be nice to have a guy who is more suited to play PG to let Adam Miller be the SG he was meant to be. Do I think he would make a good enough PG for LSU if we needed it..sure. I just think he was meant to be a SG.
I mean Pinson, Smart and Mays all played really well from that PG spot. Wade knows what he's doing there.
I wouldnt sacrifice starting a guy like Murray to start a 'true pg' at the 1 and Miller at the 2 if that 'true PG' was like 5'11, not great offensively (outside of passing/driving lane) and a liability on defense.
Having Miller start with Murray would be a good thing. You're really seeing Murray get more and more confident as the season goes along, he's a natural scorer and will be a double digit ppg game guy starting next season and beyond.
Now if you can find a Tremont Waters, so be it, start the guy alongside Miller, but good luck finding guys like that
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:29 pm to thunderbird1100
Everything you just said I agree with…I think Miller has to and will start in the backcourt..and if that means at PG..then so be it..we will still be really really good
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:41 pm to Outback Ray
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Power Forwards / Center Julian Phillips Bradley Ezewiro Shareef O'Neal Jerrell Colbert Efton Reid *
We will lose one of these to the portal, likely not by the players choice
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:46 pm to Genestealer55
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but his last full season averaging 25.5 minutes per game…he averaged 0.8 assists. He’s definitely not a true PG
Gene, again, he was a freshmen guard on a guard heavy team. One of 5 guards that played heavy minutes.
He turned around & played PG on the U19 USA national team. So you tell me what the better barometer is.
Better yet; just watch his highlights across all 3; HS, college & team USA. He’s a good passer, and a guy that can get anywhere on the court. Strong ball handler, physical, understands scoring & passing angles.
He was going to be the primary ball handler this season, and you see how good this team is.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:47 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:We 1/2 have one right now! If EG gets better at passing the ball to open shooters that describes him perfectly - he already can't score...
True high assist PGs are becoming less and less a thing in today's more 1 on 1 basketball. Wade loves 1 on 1 scoring so it's not likely we see many high assist, low offensive output PGs like a Rajon Rondo come through here under him.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/10/22 at 2:57 pm to Lester Earl
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Gene, again, he was a freshmen guard on a guard heavy team. One of 5 guards that played heavy minutes
Yeh..I know all of that..but .8 assists per 25.5 minutes is what it is.
“He turned around & played PG on the U19 USA national team. So you tell me what the better barometer is. “
That’s great..I’m not rooting against him for sure. What were his stats?
“He was going to be the primary ball handler this season, and you see how good this team is.”
I think you’re under the impression I’m not a fan of Miller..I’ve watched every highlight of him you can find. I was also a fan of Cam..now with the Grizzlies…but you were also critical of his “getting others involved” aspect just like me.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:04 pm to Genestealer55
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I was also a fan of Cam..now with the Grizzlies…but you were also critical of his “getting others involved” aspect just like me.
Miller & Cam Thomas are not comparable.
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Yeh..I know all of that..but .8 assists per 25.5 minutes is what it is.
IF you watched all of his highlights you'd understand the team makeup of Illinois last year. They had 2 other guards in the top 10 in APG in the Big10.
I dont think you dislike him. I just don't think you understand what he was asked to do at Illinois last year.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:05 pm to Lester Earl
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IF you watched all of his highlights you'd understand the team makeup of Illinois last year. They had 2 other guards in the top 10 in APG in the Big10.
Centers and power forwards playing 25.5 minutes per game should get 2-3 assists per game
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:12 pm to Genestealer55
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Centers and power forwards playing 25.5 minutes per game should get 2-3 assists per game
Eason - 1.0 apg
Days - 0.9 apg
Reid - 0.5 apg
Cockburn at Illinois last year - 0.2 apg
I mean where do you people come up with this nonsense?
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:13 pm to Open Your Eyes
I said they “should”…
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:14 pm to Genestealer55
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Centers and power forwards playing 25.5 minutes per game should get 2-3 assists per game
LSU has had 1 PF or C do this under Will Wade, which was Watford last year. He just so happened to initiate offense a good bit in the half court, and was a good & willing passer.
He's had 3rd guards not even average 2 assists per game. lol
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 1/10/22 at 3:14 pm to Genestealer55
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I said they “should”…
Says who? Because the reality is very few of them do. How could you possibly say with any confidence that the vast majority of a group that doesn’t do something should be doing that thing?
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