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re: Article: Blah football season exposing Coach Jimbo Fisher as a fraud
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:25 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:25 pm to LNCHBOX
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Jimbo before his first season is even done - “Aggie messed up, run him out of town, he sucks”
Ed Orgeron on year 3 at LSU - “It’s still his first season baw give him time”
Never change Rant. Never change.
It's scary how spot on this is
Is Jimbo a roaring success at 10-2 next year? Is he on the hotseat at 9-3? I guess, I'm not sure what the haha gotcha here is.
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:26 pm to abellsujr
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They're not taking into account that he could learn from his mistakes...
Absolutely
I don't think he's done a bad job this year but he's not rebuilding. A$M is tough in the trenches and has a good running game. They've played tough all year, until the final minute or so
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:28 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Is he on the hotseat at 9-3?
Mmm hmm.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:31 pm to tigergurl67
Article is dumb.
A Coach's first season in a program doesn't expose anything.
Nick Saban, Alabama, 2007 - 7-6
Dabo Swinney, Clemson, 2009 - 9-5
Pete Carroll, USC, 2001 - 6-6
Urban Meyer, Florida, 2005 - 9-3
Jim Tressel, Ohio State, 2001 - 7-5
Bob Stoops, Oklahoma, 1999 - 7-5
Urban Meyer at OSU and Les are outliers. Les had 11 wins in 2005, but obviously was taking over for Nick. Urban went 12-0 in his first year at OSU but was taking over for Tressel and couldn't go to a bowl.
See how there is a discrepancy between championship coaches and their records in the first year at a program? It's almost as if it isn't conclusive of success moving forward.
Oh yeah, and Larry Coker was an undefeated national champion in his first year as head coach. What's he up to these days?
We have a coach. That doesn't mean that the coaches we tried to get and didn't get are suddenly terrible.
I don't know why some people on this board needs to prove that Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman are garbage to feel better about LSU.
A Coach's first season in a program doesn't expose anything.
Nick Saban, Alabama, 2007 - 7-6
Dabo Swinney, Clemson, 2009 - 9-5
Pete Carroll, USC, 2001 - 6-6
Urban Meyer, Florida, 2005 - 9-3
Jim Tressel, Ohio State, 2001 - 7-5
Bob Stoops, Oklahoma, 1999 - 7-5
Urban Meyer at OSU and Les are outliers. Les had 11 wins in 2005, but obviously was taking over for Nick. Urban went 12-0 in his first year at OSU but was taking over for Tressel and couldn't go to a bowl.
See how there is a discrepancy between championship coaches and their records in the first year at a program? It's almost as if it isn't conclusive of success moving forward.
Oh yeah, and Larry Coker was an undefeated national champion in his first year as head coach. What's he up to these days?
We have a coach. That doesn't mean that the coaches we tried to get and didn't get are suddenly terrible.
I don't know why some people on this board needs to prove that Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman are garbage to feel better about LSU.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:31 pm to LSUgrad08112
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Sumlin averaged 8.5 wins over 6 years and he averaged 12th in recruiting rankings with 3 top 10 classes over that same span and never finished outside of the top 20.
Ok now do Miles and LSU
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Jimbo is flat out underachieving and giving A&M more of what they got under Sumlin
Ok now do O
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He’s a mediocre football coach who hasn’t ever done shite without Jameis Winston
He won 51 games in five seasons without Jameis before his final season when he was already halfway out the door, including a conference and two division championships to go with the two of each he won with JW.
Plus, does he not get credit for recruiting and developing a Heisman winner, that he plucked out of Saban’s backyard, and great college QB that became a #1 draft pick??
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it’s so funny that he has this cult following on TD simply because he turned us down.
You have no idea what you are talking about
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:33 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Hey voodoo, fingers crossed for an A$M win this weekend...
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
Weird thing to wish for, but you do you Rog
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:38 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Is Jimbo a roaring success at 10-2 next year?
They fired Sumlin and paid Jimbo $75 million for championships. If they increase to 10 wins next year, it will definitely be a nice stepping stone to that and will probably have 95% of the fans happy for the moment. But ultimately he has to win a trophy or 2 for the gamble to truly have been worth it
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:39 pm to The First Cut
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Come join the grownups at the grownup table when you can see a world bigger than who is coaching at LSU.
I’m sorry, I thought I was on Tiger Rant
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:40 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Dude, you were a Miles nut hugger, you hate Orgeron.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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3-21 SEC record at Ole Miss
More than 10 years ago.
Yep, it took that long for an AD dumb enough to overlook that tiny old detail
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:43 pm to OldManRiver
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They fired 8-win Sumlin and paid Jimbo $75 million for 8 wins.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Dude, you were a Miles nut hugger, you hate Orgeron.
What does that have to do with rooting for A&M??
Does that mean all the posters that hated Miles, and there are many that proudly boast that to this day, rooted against LSU all those years??
Because I can actually root for my alma mater and the team made up of 85 players and many assistant coaches even if I happen to think the HC isn’t a good thing for the program long term.
Is that such a difficult concept for the Miles haters to grasp?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't think he's done a bad job this year but he's not rebuilding. A$M is tough in the trenches and has a good running game.
Ok now do O
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:52 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm not sure what the haha gotcha here is.
Not surprised you don't see the blatant hypocrisy.
The same people that are giving Fisher shite for year 1 with none of his own players made excuse after excuse for O losing to UF and getting blanked by Bama in '16, then excuse after excuse for Troy and State last year.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:00 pm to Tiger Voodoo
What do O and Miles have to do with this? I already said that O isn’t in a rebuild and neither is Fisher. Learn to read, dipshit.
And sure, give him all the “credit” you want for Jameis Winston. It’s so awesome that he was highly successful in 2010 and he did it all by himself. Doesn’t change the fact that aside from having one Heisman winner he’s never seen a “biggest contract in the country” level of success, or even close to it. Typical dumb arse 95 IQ ranter arguing random things that have nothing to do with the main argument.
Again, subtract the Winston era and Jimbo averages 8.6 wins over the course of his head coaching career. When one player defines your entire coaching career and you’re mediocre without them, you’re not elite. He’s nowhere near a sure thing for future success like morons like you pretend, I said the same thing about Chavis not being that good and not being cut out to see success without elite talent and was met with the same dumb pointless arguments from our jilted fans. As soon as a coach turns down or leaves LSU, he turns into the greatest thing on earth per the rant.
It’s like clockwork, and I’ll make sure to bookmark this thread and revisit it in a few years so we can see who knows what they’re talking about and who doesn’t
And sure, give him all the “credit” you want for Jameis Winston. It’s so awesome that he was highly successful in 2010 and he did it all by himself. Doesn’t change the fact that aside from having one Heisman winner he’s never seen a “biggest contract in the country” level of success, or even close to it. Typical dumb arse 95 IQ ranter arguing random things that have nothing to do with the main argument.
Again, subtract the Winston era and Jimbo averages 8.6 wins over the course of his head coaching career. When one player defines your entire coaching career and you’re mediocre without them, you’re not elite. He’s nowhere near a sure thing for future success like morons like you pretend, I said the same thing about Chavis not being that good and not being cut out to see success without elite talent and was met with the same dumb pointless arguments from our jilted fans. As soon as a coach turns down or leaves LSU, he turns into the greatest thing on earth per the rant.
It’s like clockwork, and I’ll make sure to bookmark this thread and revisit it in a few years so we can see who knows what they’re talking about and who doesn’t
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:02 pm to The First Cut
It’s not far from one when 4-5 if the 8 wins are gimmies and the powers of the west keep beating u.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:05 pm to TheHat7
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It’s not far from one when 4-5 if the 8 wins are gimmies and the powers of the west keep beating u.
What’s different this year? This A&M team is spectacularly similar to the A&M teams of the last several years.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:14 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Ok now do O
What's does A$Ms stats have to do with LSU?
They are ranked 21st in total offense, 26th in total defense
What does that have to do with O? Your hatred is causing psychosis.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:17 pm to LSUgrad08112
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Learn to read, dipshit.
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Typical dumb arse 95 IQ ranter arguing random things that have nothing to do with the main argument.
Well since we’re dealing with such a titan of intellect here, please explain how this is a fair analysis:
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subtract the Winston era and Jimbo averages 8.6 wins over the course of his head coaching career
If you’re going just “subtract” the two best seasons of a coach’s career, why not be at least somewhat impartial and also subtract say his one worst year as well, especially since he was already one foot out the door and lost his starting QB for the year in the first half of the first game of that year anyway
Taking out those three seasons, Fisher won over 10 games a year in his other five, with an ACC title and two division titles.
Not sure what that is, but I’d argue it isn’t “mediocre”.
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He’s nowhere near a sure thing for future success like morons like you pretend,
Perhaps you could point to even a single thing I’ve ever said indicating I thought Jimbo was a “sure thing”. TIA
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It’s like clockwork, and I’ll make sure to bookmark this thread and revisit it in a few years so we can see who knows what they’re talking about and who doesn’t
Weird melt, dude. But ok, I’ll be happy to see you bump a thread in a few years when I made no predictions or assertions whatsoever
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