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re: Arkansas #1 in final RPI!??

Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16806 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:16 pm to
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How many top seeds were in the tournament despite home field advantage! Case closed it’s shitty product that needs to be retooled or REMOVED from the process!

Ok so who would have been your top 16 seeds going into the tournament? Please put them all in order.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24568 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:17 pm to
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Ok so who would have been your top 16 seeds going into the tournament? Please put them all in order


The 16 regional winners..... DUH.

We need to create a system to know this.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71799 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:17 pm to
LSU went 6-1 against #1 and #3?
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10800 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:17 pm to
There is no system that can account for a lower seed getting hot late in the season.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48992 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:22 pm to
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We were 4-1 on paper and in reality against them.


I know. Just saying I could appreciate how damned good they were. And we kept shutting their asses down.
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2073 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:23 pm to
Is that a fact, ad hominem much? You ALL are missing the point. I don’t care that the RPI selected the wrong #1 at the end of the year, I care that it selected more than half of the top seeds incorrectly! And I’m using the final RPI as an example of just how inaccurate the RPI is going forward!
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24568 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:25 pm to
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You ALL are missing the point. I don’t care that the RPI selected the wrong #1 at the end of the year, I care that it selected more than half of the top seeds incorrectly!


I'll ask this again, since you continue to ignore it.

What's a better system that would be able to more accurately determine the top 16 seeds?
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10800 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:28 pm to
LSU almost lost to a 4 seed. So does that mean we are ranked too high in the RPI?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16806 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:28 pm to
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I don’t care that the RPI selected the wrong #1 at the end of the year

Yeah we can tell that you made an entire post about it.
quote:

I care that it selected more than half of the top seeds incorrectly!

I’ll ask again. Please list your top 16 seeds that you would have had going into the tournament. In order. And give an explanation for each.
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2073 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:29 pm to
Maybe Murray state doesn’t make it through
to the CWS the top eight / 16 teams were selected more accurately!
If you love the RPI so much, tell me why you love it! Why do you believe it truly serves its purpose!
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16806 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:31 pm to
Why do you refuse to directly answer any questions?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48992 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:31 pm to
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What's a better system that would be able to more accurately determine the top 16 seeds?


I don't think there's a better system. But this year once again highlighted the fact that Baseball is kinda stupid sometimes and the best teams don't always win a 2 of 3 series.
A double elimination post season regional/super/cws with a championship series is the best we can hope for in college baseball.

Texas not making it to Omaha is a good example.

And people who judged Coastal and LSU based purely on how they fared against Auburn is another great example.


This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24568 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:32 pm to
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If you love the RPI so much, tell me why you love it!


I don't love it, but I understand it's purpose.

quote:

Why do you believe it truly serves its purpose!


I think the issue here is you don't understand it's purpose. It's just one data point looked at in determining seeds. It's not the end all be all for the selection committee. If they simply seeded based off of RPI LSU wouldn't have been #6.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42062 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:39 pm to
So another guy who does not understand the RPI or it's purpose. Got it. Are you mad because LSU still does not have the top Strength of Schedule?

They also are not first in team ERA or Team batting average. Those must be joke stats as well.

Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2073 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:40 pm to
You’re right it’s a tool. I just think the algorithm that drives it is not great! When a team beats the brakes off Q3 team and drops in the RPI versus a team that losses to a Q1 team, that to me is a problem that needs To be corrected.
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I’m only using the final RPI as an example
to show the bugs in the program!
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Also a good excuse to get one more laugh at Arkansas!
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2073 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:50 pm to
LSU is the NC why would I be mad.
I’m only mad at myself for wasting mine and your time trying to make a Valid argument regarding a computerized ranking program on a sports forum on the internet!
You win and Thanks for the wake up!
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24568 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:52 pm to
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Also a good excuse to get one more laugh at Arkansas!


That may have been your purpose, but I think we are all just laughing at you instead.

There are about a million other ways to laugh at Arkansas.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:53 pm to
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Are you claiming these results are acceptable? The fact that after the dust settles the computers still have it EGREGIOUSLY wrong should make the selection committee DEVALUE the RPI or better yet shite CAN IT!


RPI tries to tell you who had the best season. It doesn’t care that LSU beat Arkansas twice in late June anymore than it cares about beating them in mid-April.

Any rational human is perfectly aware of who the National Champion is.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42062 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

I don't think there's a better system. But this year once again highlighted the fact that Baseball is kinda stupid sometimes and the best teams don't always win a 2 of 3 series.
A double elimination post season regional/super/cws with a championship series is the best we can hope for in college baseball.

Texas not making it to Omaha is a good example.

And people who judged Coastal and LSU based purely on how they fared against Auburn is another great example.


Baseball is the most humbling and yet exhilarating sport there is. One day you're down on yourself for not catching a ball in the stands that hit someone and another day people want to make an unflattering statue to you.

I put this Natty squarely on your shoulders Mikee. Thank you
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3610 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:55 pm to
My issue with it is the disconnect between the committees “criteria” and the polls.

You literally drop the #1 ranked team on selection Monday to a #6 national seed because of RPI?

Ironically, said team ultimately proved to be the best team anyway.

Why even have polls before the last one?
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 6:58 pm
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