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re: Are we really abandoning the nickel under Chavis?
Posted on 7/29/09 at 10:25 pm to XbengalTiger
Posted on 7/29/09 at 10:25 pm to XbengalTiger
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Montgomery will fill that roll in 2010. He will be a monster off the edge.
You are way underestimating how good Alem is if you think a 19 year old true sophomore can be as good as him.
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Posted on 7/29/09 at 10:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
I may be wrong...and lord knows im not reading this entire thread...but hasnt Chavis and UT had decent success defending Florida's offense and other similar offenses. Didnt he hold UF's offense to around 250 yards or something like that? What scheme was he using in those games?
I dont think having linebackers playing a little zone..and handing the receivers off to DBs is that big of a problem. I like the idea of simplifying things and letting the players concentrate more on their assignments.
Im looking forward to seeing a really aggressive defense also...that helps take care of a number of matchup problems. If the QB doesnt have time to throw...you dont have to cover receivers for very long.
I dont think having linebackers playing a little zone..and handing the receivers off to DBs is that big of a problem. I like the idea of simplifying things and letting the players concentrate more on their assignments.
Im looking forward to seeing a really aggressive defense also...that helps take care of a number of matchup problems. If the QB doesnt have time to throw...you dont have to cover receivers for very long.
Posted on 7/29/09 at 10:55 pm to XbengalTiger
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our base D will have 3 CB's, 2 Safetys and 2 LB's that he can move around and matchup however he gameplans against the offense.
i know Chief runs the 30-stack a ton but is that gonna be our base from the get go? if so, what am i missing? a standard 30-stack, or mustang D includes 3 DL, 3 not 2 lb's, 2 not 3 cb's, and 3 not 2 safeties (1 free, 2 roving). hence the 3-3-5 name.
Posted on 7/29/09 at 10:55 pm to thunderbird1100
Chavis' base defense uses a 'drop linebacker'. Don't cringe, he actually does, which is why Coleman was moved. The concept is the same as Tepper's. Based on Tenn. defense, I think Chavis should have written the linebacker book.
Posted on 7/30/09 at 12:18 am to Peachtree Tiger
Really,do you think maybe Chavis might just have a little idea what he is doing.Maybe he is banking that some of you would run with this and post it.Dont you think he would not want other teams to know what he is planning on running. DUDE, think before you... Nevermind
Posted on 7/30/09 at 12:21 am to ColtsTigers
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You are way underestimating how good Alem is if you think a 19 year old true sophomore can be as good as him.
We were talking about creating a pass rush and having that type of player that can get to the QB. Montgomery may the the FASTEST DE we have ever recruited at LSU and he is 6'5" and 260 lbs. He may not be as complete as Alem until he matures more but he will be able to create pressure on obvious passing downs.
Posted on 7/30/09 at 12:45 am to XbengalTiger
Nice pic of Death Valley
Posted on 7/30/09 at 12:46 am to Smoke Green
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i know Chief runs the 30-stack a ton but is that gonna be our base from the get go? if so, what am i missing? a standard 30-stack, or mustang D includes 3 DL, 3 not 2 lb's, 2 not 3 cb's, and 3 not 2 safeties (1 free, 2 roving). hence the 3-3-5 name.
The D will look like a regular 4-3 in it's base form but he has one Safety (Brooks) with corner skills and he has one OLB (Coleman) with safety skills. This will allow him to run all kinds of stuff with the same players. They won't always line up looking like a base 4-3. Basically we will have the personel to run a nickle out of the base D if the offense comes out in 3 WR set. WE can sub for one LB and have 6 DB's on the field when you consider Coleman is basically a safety that will line-up as a LB when the offense comes out in a power formation or move around when they come out in a spread formation.
I think this is a great use of the talent we have in the program and I can't wait to see how it works out. Getting pressure will be key so it will be interesting to see who ends up with the other starting DE job across from Alem. I tend to think one of the younger, faster guys might end up working their way in if Pep can't create a pass rush.
Posted on 7/30/09 at 12:50 am to XbengalTiger
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We were talking about creating a pass rush and having that type of player that can get to the QB. Montgomery may the the FASTEST DE we have ever recruited at LSU and he is 6'5" and 260 lbs. He may not be as complete as Alem until he matures more but he will be able to create pressure on obvious passing downs.
I'm a big Montgomery fan, but Alem is at a different level even as a speed rusher than Montgomery will be then.
As a point of reference, Everson Griffin was the top WDE in the country two years ago, he was a true So last year and not close to as good as Alem.
I just think Alem is really really good.
Posted on 7/30/09 at 12:56 am to ColtsTigers
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I just think Alem is really really good.
As do I...
Posted on 7/30/09 at 5:34 am to Peachtree Tiger
quote:no...no it doesn't
Chavis' base defense uses a 'drop linebacker'.
ETA: have you posted one thing tonight that was even halfway correct? every post seems like your trying to be wrong on purpose.
This post was edited on 7/30/09 at 5:35 am
Posted on 7/30/09 at 8:15 am to T Shaq
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Really,do you think maybe Chavis might just have a little idea what he is doing.Maybe he is banking that some of you would run with this and post it
yes other teams are scouting our team by reading the rant
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Dont you think he would not want other teams to know what he is planning on running.
he's been running the same D for like 4-5 years. there are no secrets
Posted on 7/30/09 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
I believe Chavis understands what the biggest problem what our defense was last year. It was indecision and confusion. Coaches were indecisive therefore the players were indecisive. Guys did NOT know their roles which caused them to be constantly playing on their heels.
Chavis is a proven and experienced DC who knows exactly what he wants to do during the game. I am expecting a much more streamlined defensive attack that requires the players to do less "thinking" and more "reacting".
Chavis is a proven and experienced DC who knows exactly what he wants to do during the game. I am expecting a much more streamlined defensive attack that requires the players to do less "thinking" and more "reacting".
Posted on 7/30/09 at 9:32 am to STEVED00
i think we'll see 3 things
1. more simple defense with fewer different looks
2. minimal changes from the opening kickoff until the final whistle
3. better, faster LB play
i would say 4 (more speed than power on D) but i'm waiting to see this actually happen first. chavis likes smaller/faster guys than bo p, but i just don't know if this will actually happen)
1. more simple defense with fewer different looks
2. minimal changes from the opening kickoff until the final whistle
3. better, faster LB play
i would say 4 (more speed than power on D) but i'm waiting to see this actually happen first. chavis likes smaller/faster guys than bo p, but i just don't know if this will actually happen)
Posted on 7/30/09 at 11:09 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Do you think that describes the way he has coached defense in the past?
2. minimal changes from the opening kickoff until the final whistle
Posted on 7/30/09 at 11:11 am to thunderbird1100
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We aren't abandoning it. Chavis just doesn't believe in constantly rotating a LB out for a nickel back when the other team goes to a 3 WR set.
Hint
Why do think he like to turn safeties into LB's??????
Posted on 7/30/09 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think we'll see 3 things
1. more simple defense with fewer different looks
2. minimal changes from the opening kickoff until the final whistle
3. better, faster LB play
I would agree (assuming minimal changes doesn't apply to DL where I believe a rotation is necessary) and I think its a good strategy. We have the athletes to match up with the best SEC schools, so there is no need IMO to get to cute with our schemes (well at least until the guys have a firm grasp of their roles).
Posted on 7/30/09 at 1:09 pm to King Joey
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Do you think that describes the way he has coached defense in the past?
uh, yeah
Posted on 7/30/09 at 1:09 pm to STEVED00
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We have the athletes to match up with the best SEC schools, so there is no need IMO to get to cute with our schemes
unless we run into cute offenses
Posted on 7/30/09 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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unless we run into cute offenses
Are you considering UF's offense "cute"? When I said cute really meant overly complicated.
This post was edited on 7/30/09 at 2:14 pm
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