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re: Are Pop Ups a result of Double Play avoidance?

Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by KTrain915
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Feb 2010
819 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:41 pm to
Probably true but they Also include more risk. It's really all about pitch sequencing and keeping the batter off balance.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68699 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:45 pm to
I will say this...striking a batter out now is probably much easier than inducing a dp ball. I wouldn't be surprised if analytics tell coaches it's much more common to get a SO and then another out instead of going for a dp ball to get out of a jam...unless you have a guy with a devasting sinker.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9573 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Are Pop Ups a result of Double Play avoidance?



Not at all. I think its when The Undertaker gets pissed off after a high spot.

Example:

Posted by BamaTex
Kingwood, Texas
Member since Jan 2020
4 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:20 pm to
Many moons ago I pitched at the collegiate level at a small NAIA school in Mississippi. While pitching and hitting have changed somewhat some things have not. In response to your hypothesis I have several thoughts: 1. good hitters never think about not hitting into double plays; rather they are looking for a certain pitch to drive. The pitch depends on the pitch count. 2. what is a high pitch is important; a ball around the letters is highly preferable for a pitcher to one belt or thigh high because a belt high fast ball in the middle of the plate can be launched far more easily and lifted to elevate the launch angle. 3. it makes a huge difference between a left handed and right handed batter. Left handers prefer the ball down whereas right handers prefer pitches up in the zone. Throwing high heat to a left hander is a good pitch usually if it is letter high but not belt high. Finally pitching is trying to limit the force of contact and the launch angle. Conversely, hitting is trying to maximize contact and launch angle. Hitters at the major league level may be capable of changing their approach to hit a ball a certain place but even at that level they go with the pitch. I doubt college players have the skill to avoid double plays. Trying to hit the lower or upper part of the ball strikes me as laughable. Hitting good pitching at all is difficult.

Good luck to the Tigers the rest of the way.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9573 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:28 pm to
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Many moons ago I pitched at the collegiate level at a small NAIA school in Mississippi.


William Carey?
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11034 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Many moons ago I pitched at the collegiate level at a small NAIA school in Mississippi. While pitching and hitting have changed somewhat some things have not. In response to your hypothesis I have several thoughts: 1. good hitters never think about not hitting into double plays; rather they are looking for a certain pitch to drive. The pitch depends on the pitch count. 2. what is a high pitch is important; a ball around the letters is highly preferable for a pitcher to one belt or thigh high because a belt high fast ball in the middle of the plate can be launched far more easily and lifted to elevate the launch angle. 3. it makes a huge difference between a left handed and right handed batter. Left handers prefer the ball down whereas right handers prefer pitches up in the zone. Throwing high heat to a left hander is a good pitch usually if it is letter high but not belt high. Finally pitching is trying to limit the force of contact and the launch angle. Conversely, hitting is trying to maximize contact and launch angle. Hitters at the major league level may be capable of changing their approach to hit a ball a certain place but even at that level they go with the pitch. I doubt college players have the skill to avoid double plays. Trying to hit the lower or upper part of the ball strikes me as laughable. Hitting good pitching at all is difficult.

Good luck to the Tigers the rest of the way.


This is not your typical Bama fan.

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BamaTex
Member since Jan 2020
2 posts


His only other post in the 3 years he's been here.....

quote:

To the LSU Tiger family,

Being born and raised in Alabama I attended Alabama games with my father and his friends. I remain a follower and fan of Alabama despite not living in the area now. I remain a college football fan but more than that a fan of excellence pure and simple. This years version of the LSU football team set new standards for excellence. They played and defeated the 2,4,6,7,8,14, 25 and 26 teams in the final AP poll. Enjoy your championship. You deserve it. Well Done, LSU; Very Well Done.


I don't say this often. And I'm not just saying it because of your "LSU salutes". But you should post more.

Posted by BamaTex
Kingwood, Texas
Member since Jan 2020
4 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:04 pm to
Belhaven College. William Carey was one of our biggest rivals.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3374 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:12 pm to
?? correct!
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3374 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:13 pm to
No they don’t ! Wouldn’t you rather them fly out on the out field and score a run rather that ground to double play?
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