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re: Anyone take a guess how many home runs have been hit in CWS?

Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87159 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:51 pm to
Who's been talking about fairness from team to team?

I played too. The game is boring and the "fairness" has to do between pitching and hitting. There is no balance. The game is different now with teams (feeling like they are) forced to bunt with their 3rd hitter in the first inning.

And the purpose of the CWS is not to completely take away the HR either.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40080 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:52 pm to
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Baseball is baseball and a good baseball program with good coaches and players can make adjustments and play good defense, have smart base running and move the man over.

So you admit that the stadium forces teams to all play the exact same style. A home run and mashing the ball to the gaps isn't even an option anymore. Do you not see how that is ridiculous?

I'm all for small ball when executed well, but I'm also not in favor of a stadium dictating the style of play to this extent.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31137 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:55 pm to
I hope the number stays at zero
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:55 pm to
Wow what a cluster!

What was the straw that broke the camels back in terms of royals choosing to play elsewhere? Any ideas? That sounds like someone in planning should've gotten their asses canned
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10994 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:57 pm to
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So you admit that the stadium forces teams to all play the exact same style. A home run and mashing the ball to the gaps isn't even an option anymore. Do you not see how that is ridiculous? I'm all for small ball when executed well, but I'm also not in favor of a stadium dictating the style of play to this extent.


Well you have to play a different style of ball in Fenway versus Comerica Park or Target Field. Singles and doubles will add up to runs.

Like I said, good baseball programs can win in this ballpark. So the wind is blowing in, well that's the way it goes. The wind blows in at times at Wrigley.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40080 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Well you have to play a different style of ball in Fenway versus Comerica Park or Target Field.

Right, but in the majors you don't play 162 games at Fenway with the wind blowing out and then play the entire championship round at, say, Target Field, dug into a big hole with the wind perpetually blowing in at 15-30 MPH.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87159 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:08 pm to
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Singles and doubles will add up to runs
Duh?

If you can hit singles and doubles at the same rate as you would at other parks, there wouldn't be such a discrepancy in run production from the supers to the CWS. TDA takes away hits, too. What an ignorant, blanket statement.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22211 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:45 pm to
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Well you have to play a different style of ball in Fenway versus Comerica Park or Target Field. Singles and doubles will add up to runs.


None of those ballparks virtually take away one aspect of the game. I said this earlier, but I dare you to find any MLB ballpark where 11 straight games have gone by without one ball leaving the park.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70916 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:49 pm to
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Well you have to play a different style of ball in Fenway versus Comerica Park or Target Field. Singles and doubles will add up to runs.

well when TDA allows the outfielders to play at an incredibly shallow depth, it narrows the gaps in the outfield as well as the gaps between the outfielders and infielders, making doubles and singles harder to come by as well. you basically need to hit ground balls through the infield for singles and doubles down the line.
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The wind blows in at times at Wrigley.

the wind also blows out at wrigley a lot too. the wind never blows out at TDA

bottom line, taking home runs and doubles out of the game is not how baseball is meant to be played. pitchers aren't afraid to leave balls over the middle of the plate, so they don't walk as many batters, and it's very difficult to score more than a few runs a game if you are solely relying on stringing together a few ground ball singles in a row or getting lucky taking gambles with stolen bases or hit and runs. also, trying to hit ground balls sets you up for more double plays.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70916 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:53 pm to
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None of those ballparks virtually take away one aspect of the game. I said this earlier, but I dare you to find any MLB ballpark where 11 straight games have gone by without one ball leaving the park.

i also dare someone to find me a stadium anywhere where ZERO homeruns have been hit in 4 years to the power alleys and out to center. and it's not like the only games played there are at the CWS. Creighton plays their games there, and the Big10 Tournament was played there this year
Posted by diehardtiger68
Gateway to the Marsh
Member since Feb 2009
577 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 3:00 pm to
All it did was ruined the CWS, I don't care what they do,it will never be like at the Blatt. NCAA like everything else is set to ruin College Baseball. The atmosphere at the Blatt was one in a Million you could feel the history through the tv and the it will never be the same.
Posted by bayoubengal225
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2009
5340 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:52 pm to
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All it did was ruined the CWS, I don't care what they do,it will never be like at the Blatt. NCAA like everything else is set to ruin College Baseball. The atmosphere at the Blatt was one in a Million you could feel the history through the tv and the it will never be the same.


Couldn't have said it better myself. Watching them play in this new stadium I don't sense the same atmosphere that the Blatt had. They have ruined the stadium and the game with these changes. It really is bad. I am a huge college baseball fan and I even find this hard to watch. They lost the average fan by changing the bats and now they are losing more fans with this shitty arse stadium.
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:03 pm to
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ahh, I love this response. I guess it would be cool too if the NCAA basketball finals were played on 12 foot goals then since it would be same for both teams? The answer is no. This ballpark completely changes the nature of baseball and a fundamental part of the game. Even a pitcher Kyle Peterson was talking about how this isn't baseball and the fences needs be moved in


I agree man. This sport has gone to hell with the NCAA tinkering with the bats and this ballpark. This isn't baseball...its wiffleball or stick ball or some other shite. I think only 43 runs were scored in the first 8 games. c'mon man. really ???
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30356 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:36 pm to
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I admit that I don't follow it very well. I keep track on how LSU is doing and the local big ten team that's about it.

So you're disagreeing with pretty much everyone about the park (not just posters here) even though it sounds like you've watched very few, if any, games played in the park in question. Is that accurate?

This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:44 pm to
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So you're disagreeing with pretty much everyone about the park (not just posters here) even though it sounds like you've watched very few, if any games, played in the park in question. Is that accurate?


Thats rantastic
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15272 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 6:48 pm to
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I agree man. This sport has gone to hell with the NCAA tinkering with the bats and this ballpark. This isn't baseball...its wiffleball or stick ball or some other shite. I think only 43 runs were scored in the first 8 games. c'mon man. really ???


I heard part of an interview with Skip today and he basically said how much more parity does the NCAA want because they're ruining college baseball. Very true.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30356 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:15 pm to
And it isn't just about HRs, that's what people like the other poster do not understand. Through 8 games, one of which was 15 innings, there were only 25 extra base hits.

Hitting HRs shouldn't be easy, but pitching shouldn't be either.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:18 pm to
Agreed, it really is pathetic. The problem is of's are able to play so shallow and take away a lot of hits.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40080 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:45 pm to
Guys, the fella that runs all the NCAA championships says it's been great baseball and he's holding out hope for a home run tonight. So we can all stop our bitching now.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:47 pm to
Id tell him to off himself
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