re: Any scenario - Orgeron is retained

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but I think F. King should be shown the door as well...

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I would give a donation for that. He is the reason we kept Les for 10 more months and lost Jimbo.

fricking socialist, trying to tell private donors how to spend their money.

Your post makes a lot of sense. I would like to know the people responsible for hiring Alleva. Evidently the booster could do nothing to prevent it. LSU's problem more than anything is poor leadership. Hence Alleva and Orgeron.

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Quick name another top 10-15 program that would interview O for its vacancy much less hire him...go

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shiiieeeeeet, name me any P5 program that would interview O.

I doubt even oregon state or kansas would waste their time.

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Any scenario - Orgeron is retained

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While I have no idea if you really have insight or not this actually sounds like a very plausible plan.

They will give coach "O" one more year no matter what especially since this years recruiting class is shaping up to be very good.

People can say stuff like this all they want but the bottom line is if we can’t beat one of Auburn, UGA, or Alabama, people are going to be disgruntled. No danger of being fired imo (right or wrong) but people sure won’t be thrilled.

If he takes care of business week 1 and gets things started on a positive note that will be one to hang his hat on. But throw in a Game 1 loss to Miami with those others and all of a sudden things are going to be very difficult for O all offseason.


Now if he loses to all of those teams and also adds in a loss to Mullen (again) in his first year at Florida, lets Jimbo and the Ags break our streak or heaven forbid he loses to MSU for the second consecutive year IN TIGER STADIUM to a first year ever head coach???


That would be 7-5 with bad losses to rival programs that are rebuilding and anyone that honestly thinks he wouldnt be in very serious jeopardy of losing his job if he loses to the big four and adds in one of those is being completely naive.


Lose two or more to those three key rivals and coaches in addition to the big four and I say the odds are he is fired.



Think about it. Miles was not on the hot seat in 2015 in any way shape or form. He gets to #2 in the country in November, then loses three straight and he is basically toast.


If you don’t think the atmosphere in Baton Rouge is going to be absolute hysteria if we start off 1-2 and then lose multiple games in that Florida, Georgia, MSU stretch before we even get to Alabama you haven’t been a fan very long.


If we are 4-4 going into Alabama O will 100% be on the hot seat going into November and with a likely loss to Saban, that would mean that TAM game would just be to finish above .500 for the year and I believe he would basically be coaching for his job similar to Miles in 15.


I don’t care about the offseason level headed talk about money, buyouts, recruiting class, National perception, whatever. If we start dropping games to those teams and coaches all bets are off.

If we are looking at a 6-6 or even a 7-5 season O is likely toast and rightfully so.


It’s easy to look at a macro view in the offseason and say well 7-5 wouldn’t be THAT bad.

But look at it as the weeks are playing out during the season.

Seriously, what positive signs at all would we have throughout the season?? He would basically be 0-3 against the top teams and 1-3 or 2-2 against the second tier teams we play.


Flat out unacceptable and we would be inundated with the reality of the situation virtually every week for three months.

I don’t think he will survive that no matter what any “boosters” say in July.

Everything you have said is true. We just have to be patient at this point.

edit: because I can't spell.

Anyone who would assume from my post that my opinion of F. King is "based on football" is a f'king dope.

The whole post is misguided and aggressively ignorant.

Bumping this thread solely because it was quoted extensively today on Finebaum's show.

I agree Alleva gets axed first.
Whether O stays much beyond Alleva's firing is another story.

We shall see...