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re: Any insider news on players surprising in camp?
Posted on 3/19/09 at 6:58 pm to stompinleo
Posted on 3/19/09 at 6:58 pm to stompinleo
hay guys, whats goin on in here?
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Posted on 3/19/09 at 7:18 pm to LSUzealot
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Flynn decided to throw the ball into the chest of defenders an awful lot then. Luckily he probably led the NCAA in potential INTs dropped his senior year.
Brilliant comment here
Posted on 3/19/09 at 7:28 pm to LSUzealot
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hay guys, whats goin on in here?
Nothing, I just read the whole thread and its nothing, but a bunch of ignorant people bickering back and forth about white/black bullshite that has nothing to do with news about spring camp.
This whole thread is fricking worthless.
Posted on 3/19/09 at 7:31 pm to rutiger
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ask jamarcus how he feels about that statement. he was the #1 pick in the draft and all season long all we heard was how flynn should be playing.
While you're talking to JR, ask him how it felt to raise that crystal trophy...oh wait, that was Flynn.
Posted on 3/19/09 at 7:51 pm to amiznit
quote:OK . . . folks are a little slow here tonight.
Oh ... is that why JR comleted more of his passes for a much higher YPA?
JR's YPA was in spite of, not due to the offense. *****Tommy Tuberville, Auburn 2006.
. . . and yes, Flynn made better on field decisions. He often found 2nd, 3rd, or 4th receivers when his primaries were covered. In some ways he had to. Flynn couldn't drill a 35 yd line drive into tight coverage. He had to find the receivers who were open. JR didn't. JR often completed nearly impossible throws to primary receivers, while teammates were running routes 10yds in the clear.
Who was the better QB? No contest. JR.
Bit of trivia.
Who was the better QB? Troy Aikman or Jamelle Holieway. Never heard of Holieway? He beat out Troy Aikman for the starting QB role at OU and then took OU to the MNC in 1985. Aikman had to transfer.
Who was the better QB? Obviously Aikman.
Who was the smarter QB? Maybe the guy who figured out how to win a starting role from a future NFL Hall of Famer?
Posted on 3/19/09 at 7:56 pm to NC_Tigah
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and yes, Flynn made better on field decisions.
what about bama 2007, kentucky 2007, and arkansas 2007?
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:05 pm to TheDoc
Flynn only threw 3 picks in the first half against alabama but he is a super smart qb.
Hester and steltz had bigtime smarts and character and were leaders.
The lb's should be Kyle Prater, Jacob Cutrera, and Kellen Theriot. Imagine how smart the linebacking core would be.
JLee is much smarter than JJ and he has a faster release so he should get the start.
Hester and steltz had bigtime smarts and character and were leaders.
The lb's should be Kyle Prater, Jacob Cutrera, and Kellen Theriot. Imagine how smart the linebacking core would be.
JLee is much smarter than JJ and he has a faster release so he should get the start.
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:11 pm to Mmorsey
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Flynn only threw 3 picks in the first half against alabama but he is a super smart qb.
Hester and steltz had bigtime smarts and character and were leaders.
The lb's should be Kyle Prater, Jacob Cutrera, and Kellen Theriot. Imagine how smart the linebacking core would be.
JLee is much smarter than JJ and he has a faster release so he should get the start.
white = smart
black = dumb
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Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:12 pm to TheDoc
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what about bama 2007, kentucky 2007, and arkansas 2007?
A lot of Flynns worst INTs were because he couldn't get the ball where he wanted to because in many throws his arm strength is lacking. It wasn't simply because he didn't make a good read in the defense. Now, you can argue that trying to make a throw you can't make with a high degree of safety is a "bad decision." I would argue that a QB has to play and throw with some degree of confidence.
JR, on the other hand, can make every throw on the football field. Almost any INT that can be attributed to him could be chalked up to a poor decision.
Again, JR was clearly the better QB and made less mistakes on the field though. Its just not as simple as saying, because one QB threw less INTs he makes better decisions on the football field. Some QBs just have less or more margin for error because of their physical talent.
This post was edited on 3/19/09 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:20 pm to NC_Tigah
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Regarding Flynn-Russell, Flynn consistently made better on field decisions.
link?
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:20 pm to NC_Tigah
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He often found 2nd, 3rd, or 4th receivers when his primaries were covered. In some ways he had to. Flynn couldn't drill a 35 yd line drive into tight coverage. He had to find the receivers who were open. JR didn't. JR often completed nearly impossible throws to primary receivers, while teammates were running routes 10yds in the clear.
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE myth. Flynn stared down his WR like a mofo. I've re-watched every game from '07 multiple times and he rarely, if ever, looked off his #1 guy.
That's why I don't get on Lee for not doing so. If a 5th year senior QB doesn't do it/can't do it, a RS-Fr won't be able to either.
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JR's YPA was in spite of, not due to the offense
I don't know what you're trying to say here ... are you saying that Crowton's offense called for shorter passes? Or was that Fisher's? That's doesn't really matter though--JR's higher completion % with a higher YPA means he was a more efficient QB. It means that on average, JR threw the ball further down field and completed more of those deeper passes.
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:22 pm to adono
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While you're talking to JR, ask him how it felt to raise that crystal trophy...oh wait, that was Flynn.
2006 losses: 2. 1 was to the national champion at their house, and the other was to a top 10 team at their house
2007 losses: 2. both were to unranked opponents. 1 at home, and 1 away
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:23 pm to NC_Tigah
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Flynn made better on field decisions. He often found 2nd, 3rd, or 4th receivers
flynn has tunnel vision most of the time
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:24 pm to Tigercat
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Almost any INT that can be attributed to him could be chalked up to a poor decision.
like 2 picks against UF in 2006 that came off bowe's hands?
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:26 pm to TheDoc
Dude what is up with you on this post. I have seen some of your post and they were right on. Now you seem like some unreasonable lunatic...
Look at all the people calling lee stupid and not smart enought to read defenses. And praising JJ for his knowledge of the offense ie smart...
Look at all the people calling lee stupid and not smart enought to read defenses. And praising JJ for his knowledge of the offense ie smart...
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:30 pm to Tiger Roux
Lee is part of the formula for a NC. Mauck and flynn have the same smarts, character, and leadership as lee and they lead lsu to a NC. JR didn't, neither will jj. If only we still had hatch 
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:34 pm to Mmorsey
I think you have been smoking to much of what you want legalized..
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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like 2 picks against UF in 2006 that came off bowe's hands?
Nope, not those at all.
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Almost any INT that can be attributed to him could be chalked up to a poor decision.
I am just saying, that Jamarcus is so talented, that IF an INT is his fault, it almost has to be the fault of his decision making.
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:48 pm to ruger1776
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It's just that the majority of people on here want so bad to have a white qb. They will deny that, but its true.
fyi, very few people feel this way.
Posted on 3/19/09 at 8:49 pm to Tigercat
let's not forget all the dropped picks in 2007 and the bama game
i mean flynn threw a pick directly to a LB inside the LSU 20
i mean flynn threw a pick directly to a LB inside the LSU 20
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