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re: Anthony Jennings QB Comparison
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:13 pm to NotRight37
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:13 pm to NotRight37
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BH has a high skill set, but is a risk reward deal
What is the risk?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:16 pm to theBru
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Yes, he just chunks it up there and watches to see who can get to it first...
quote:And yet, somehow he was selected as an Elite 11 QB, and everyone praises him for his longball.
has no arm strength at all
quote:That's exactly what LSU fans said about Mett in his first year as a starter.
very little pocket presence
quote:Good for Jennings. JJ outperformed every QB except RG3 QB at the 2012 NFL Combine. You'd rather Jennings have the athletic ability of Mett?
has the athletic ability of JJ
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:29 pm to Salviati
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Good for Jennings. JJ outperformed every QB except RG3 QB at the 2012 NFL Combine. You'd rather Jennings have the athletic ability of Mett?
I'd much prefer AJ mirror Mett than JJ. You can't help yourself with the JJ love.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:32 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Mett had 12 TDs in 13 games. 92%
Skewed by many less attempts. Also an irrelevant stat. TD/game is all that matters.
Jennings has 6 TDs in 6 games. 100%
quote:Barley, no Corn. So you're going to rely on an IF . . . Nice.
Barley. Had he not been pulled in the NMSU game, Mett would likely be ahead.
quote:Skewed by less attempts. It's a "Per Attempt" stat. The whole point is to measure "Per Attempt."quote:Skewed by many less attempts.
Jennings' YPA is better.
quote:First, the difference is more than one INT.quote:Because of one INT.
Jennings' passer rating is better.
Second, it's kinda important for QBs to NOT throw INTs. One INT can make a big difference. Ask Jeff Driskel and Rickey Jefferson.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:39 pm to Salviati
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Mett had 12 TDs in 13 games. 92%
Jennings has 6 TDs in 6 games. 100%
Is this astat people actually use? Like really?
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Skewed by less attempts. It's a "Per Attempt" stat. The whole point is to measure "Per Attempt."
I should have been more specific. It is heavily skewed because of 3 passes that went 80+ yards, coupled with AJ's many less attempts.
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First, the difference is more than one INT.
Not through the first 7 games of each season.
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Second, it's kinda important for QBs to NOT throw INTs. One INT can make a big difference. Ask Jeff Driskel and Rickey Jefferson.
Well, let's look at the team record then and see how important that extra INT was.
ZM: 6-1 (2-1)
AJ: 5-2 (1-2)
I think I'll take the extra INT.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:40 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:The question was about athletic ability.quote:I'd much prefer AJ mirror Mett than JJ.quote:Good for Jennings. JJ outperformed every QB except RG3 QB at the 2012 NFL Combine. You'd rather Jennings have the athletic ability of Mett?
has the athletic ability of JJ
Try to focus on the issue at hand.
So you would rather that Jennings and Harris have the athletic ability of Mett rather than Jefferson?
If so, this is where the three ROTFLMAO emoticons belong.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:41 pm to Salviati
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The question was about athletic ability.
Try to focus on the issue at hand.
So you would rather that Jennings and Harris have the athletic ability of Mett rather than Jefferson?
If so, this is where the three ROTFLMAO emoticons belong.
You acting like JJ's combine numbers meant anything is what is truly funny. You cannot help but defend JJ. How are you related to him again?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:48 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Like really?quote:Is this astat people actually use? Like really?
Mett had 12 TDs in 13 games. 92%
Jennings has 6 TDs in 6 games. 100%
Like really?
TD/Game does not mean shite to me. However, this is what YOU said:
quote:YOU said that stat is all that matters. Now you say:
TD/game is all that matters.
quote:I don't care about the stat, but you think it's all that matters. Well, it's better for Jennings than Mett.
Is this astat people actually use? Like really?
quote:Ohhhhh, you want to ignore Jennings' best plays. As though Mett didn't have any long passers. Got it, champ! Let's ignore Jennings' best plays.
I should have been more specific. It is heavily skewed because of 3 passes that went 80+ yards, coupled with AJ's many less attempts.
quote:First, you want to tell me why Jennings gets the Auburn loss? Second, most rational folks wouldn't say that W/L is NOT dispositive of QB quality or vice versa. There are too many confounding factors to consider, like OL and defense.
Well, let's look at the team record then and see how important that extra INT was.
ZM: 6-1 (2-1)
AJ: 5-2 (1-2)
I think I'll take the extra INT.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:52 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:The NFL Combine is a damn good measure of athletic ability. JJ was second among all of the QBs. That's pretty good.
You acting like JJ's combine numbers meant anything is what is truly funny.
quote:The question was about athletic ability.
You cannot help but defend JJ. How are you related to him again?
Try to focus on the issue at hand.
You keep bringing up Jefferson. I didn't. You can start your own thread about Jefferson, if you like. This thread is about Jennings and Mett.
Try to focus on the issue at hand.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:54 pm to Salviati
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Like really?
Like really?
Yes, I have never seen TD/game as a percentage. You're the first to use it, and you're not even doing it right. You use full season stats to lower ZM's numbers when convenient.
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I don't care about the stat, but you think it's all that matters. Well, it's better for Jennings than Mett.
It's not at this point in the season. The way you use it is why I asked who uses that stat. No one lists a percentage for that.
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Ohhhhh, you want to ignore Jennings' best plays. As though Mett didn't have any long passers. Got it, champ! Let's ignore Jennings' best plays.
I don't want to ignore it, I just said it is skewed. Can you brain not process that?
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First, you want to tell me why Jennings gets the Auburn loss?
The same reason he gets the NMSU win.
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Second, most rational folks wouldn't say that W/L is dispositive of QB quality or vice versa. There are too many confounding factors to consider, like OL and defense.
Results are all that matter last I checked.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:55 pm to LNCHBOX
Reminds me of Marcus Randall, but Marcus Randall at least ran like a hoss.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:00 pm to Salviati
OP went over so many people's heads. 
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:21 pm to Salviati
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Well, nearly all of Jennings' passing numbers during his first year as a starter are better than Mett's passing numbers after his first year as a starter.
Mett got a lot better.
No reason to think Jennings won't get a lot better.
I was thinking the same thing.
Some of these same folks SKEWERED Mettenberger his first year as a starter because he wasn't the "Mettsiah" they all thought he'd be in his first year.
Neither of our two QBs have impressed at this point. Why not just allow them to get experience and improve. I have complete faith that Cameron can get BOTH of them to be good, maybe even great, quarterbacks. But right now, both are gonna take their lumps. The team did look better this week however, when compared to the Auburn and MSU games.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:30 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:It almost hurts to see how badly I overestimate the intelligence of this board sometimes.
OP went over so many people's heads.
Is this not sarcasm?!?!
And with posters like LNCHBOX, you really have to wonder why I would ever overestimate the board's intelligence.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:50 pm to Salviati
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And with posters like LNCHBOX, you really have to wonder why I would ever overestimate the board's intelligence.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:54 pm to Penrod
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bullshite on this! I don't have a horse in the race, but give the man his due; Jennings throws a great deep ball whether or not the receiver is covered, whether or not the receiver adjusts.
bullshite on that. Show me a great deep ball he has thrown into coverage. I haven't seen him his Dural in stride on a deep ball once.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:59 pm to memphis tiger
He reminds me of Marcus Randall to be honest. Won't wow you, but will get wins.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:02 pm to Salviati
Mett had only two games against UF and he was marginal, at best.
Back to Jennings:
He has only started, what, 7 games? Give him a little more time, please.
Back to Jennings:
He has only started, what, 7 games? Give him a little more time, please.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:03 pm to MrWiseGuy
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He's terrible at throwing across the middle and stepping up in the pocket right now.
I don't think they've let him pass anywhere other than the sidelines for this reason.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:10 pm to SammyTiger
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