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re: Anthony Jennings QB Comparison

Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:13 pm to
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BH has a high skill set, but is a risk reward deal


What is the risk?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7703 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:16 pm to
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Yes, he just chunks it up there and watches to see who can get to it first...
C'mon man.


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has no arm strength at all
And yet, somehow he was selected as an Elite 11 QB, and everyone praises him for his longball.


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very little pocket presence
That's exactly what LSU fans said about Mett in his first year as a starter.


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has the athletic ability of JJ
Good for Jennings. JJ outperformed every QB except RG3 QB at the 2012 NFL Combine. You'd rather Jennings have the athletic ability of Mett?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Good for Jennings. JJ outperformed every QB except RG3 QB at the 2012 NFL Combine. You'd rather Jennings have the athletic ability of Mett?



I'd much prefer AJ mirror Mett than JJ. You can't help yourself with the JJ love.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Skewed by many less attempts. Also an irrelevant stat. TD/game is all that matters.
Mett had 12 TDs in 13 games. 92%
Jennings has 6 TDs in 6 games. 100%


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Barley. Had he not been pulled in the NMSU game, Mett would likely be ahead.
Barley, no Corn. So you're going to rely on an IF . . . Nice.


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Jennings' YPA is better.
Skewed by many less attempts.
Skewed by less attempts. It's a "Per Attempt" stat. The whole point is to measure "Per Attempt."


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Jennings' passer rating is better.
Because of one INT.
First, the difference is more than one INT.

Second, it's kinda important for QBs to NOT throw INTs. One INT can make a big difference. Ask Jeff Driskel and Rickey Jefferson.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:39 pm to
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Mett had 12 TDs in 13 games. 92%
Jennings has 6 TDs in 6 games. 100%


Is this astat people actually use? Like really?

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Skewed by less attempts. It's a "Per Attempt" stat. The whole point is to measure "Per Attempt."


I should have been more specific. It is heavily skewed because of 3 passes that went 80+ yards, coupled with AJ's many less attempts.

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First, the difference is more than one INT.



Not through the first 7 games of each season.

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Second, it's kinda important for QBs to NOT throw INTs. One INT can make a big difference. Ask Jeff Driskel and Rickey Jefferson.


Well, let's look at the team record then and see how important that extra INT was.

ZM: 6-1 (2-1)
AJ: 5-2 (1-2)

I think I'll take the extra INT.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:40 pm to
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has the athletic ability of JJ
Good for Jennings. JJ outperformed every QB except RG3 QB at the 2012 NFL Combine. You'd rather Jennings have the athletic ability of Mett?
I'd much prefer AJ mirror Mett than JJ.
The question was about athletic ability.

Try to focus on the issue at hand.

So you would rather that Jennings and Harris have the athletic ability of Mett rather than Jefferson?

If so, this is where the three ROTFLMAO emoticons belong.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:41 pm to
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The question was about athletic ability.

Try to focus on the issue at hand.

So you would rather that Jennings and Harris have the athletic ability of Mett rather than Jefferson?

If so, this is where the three ROTFLMAO emoticons belong.



You acting like JJ's combine numbers meant anything is what is truly funny. You cannot help but defend JJ. How are you related to him again?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7703 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:48 pm to
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Mett had 12 TDs in 13 games. 92%
Jennings has 6 TDs in 6 games. 100%
Is this astat people actually use? Like really?
Like really?

Like really?

TD/Game does not mean shite to me. However, this is what YOU said:
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TD/game is all that matters.
YOU said that stat is all that matters. Now you say:
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Is this astat people actually use? Like really?
I don't care about the stat, but you think it's all that matters. Well, it's better for Jennings than Mett.


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I should have been more specific. It is heavily skewed because of 3 passes that went 80+ yards, coupled with AJ's many less attempts.
Ohhhhh, you want to ignore Jennings' best plays. As though Mett didn't have any long passers. Got it, champ! Let's ignore Jennings' best plays.


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Well, let's look at the team record then and see how important that extra INT was.

ZM: 6-1 (2-1)
AJ: 5-2 (1-2)

I think I'll take the extra INT.
First, you want to tell me why Jennings gets the Auburn loss? Second, most rational folks wouldn't say that W/L is NOT dispositive of QB quality or vice versa. There are too many confounding factors to consider, like OL and defense.


This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7703 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:52 pm to
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You acting like JJ's combine numbers meant anything is what is truly funny.
The NFL Combine is a damn good measure of athletic ability. JJ was second among all of the QBs. That's pretty good.

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You cannot help but defend JJ. How are you related to him again?
The question was about athletic ability.

Try to focus on the issue at hand.

You keep bringing up Jefferson. I didn't. You can start your own thread about Jefferson, if you like. This thread is about Jennings and Mett.

Try to focus on the issue at hand.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Like really?

Like really?



Yes, I have never seen TD/game as a percentage. You're the first to use it, and you're not even doing it right. You use full season stats to lower ZM's numbers when convenient.

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I don't care about the stat, but you think it's all that matters. Well, it's better for Jennings than Mett.


It's not at this point in the season. The way you use it is why I asked who uses that stat. No one lists a percentage for that.

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Ohhhhh, you want to ignore Jennings' best plays. As though Mett didn't have any long passers. Got it, champ! Let's ignore Jennings' best plays.


I don't want to ignore it, I just said it is skewed. Can you brain not process that?

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First, you want to tell me why Jennings gets the Auburn loss?


The same reason he gets the NMSU win.

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Second, most rational folks wouldn't say that W/L is dispositive of QB quality or vice versa. There are too many confounding factors to consider, like OL and defense.


Results are all that matter last I checked.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
15373 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:55 pm to
Reminds me of Marcus Randall, but Marcus Randall at least ran like a hoss.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:00 pm to
OP went over so many people's heads.
Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
3509 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:21 pm to
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Well, nearly all of Jennings' passing numbers during his first year as a starter are better than Mett's passing numbers after his first year as a starter.

Mett got a lot better.

No reason to think Jennings won't get a lot better.



I was thinking the same thing.

Some of these same folks SKEWERED Mettenberger his first year as a starter because he wasn't the "Mettsiah" they all thought he'd be in his first year.

Neither of our two QBs have impressed at this point. Why not just allow them to get experience and improve. I have complete faith that Cameron can get BOTH of them to be good, maybe even great, quarterbacks. But right now, both are gonna take their lumps. The team did look better this week however, when compared to the Auburn and MSU games.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7703 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:30 pm to
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OP went over so many people's heads.
It almost hurts to see how badly I overestimate the intelligence of this board sometimes.

Is this not sarcasm?!?!

And with posters like LNCHBOX, you really have to wonder why I would ever overestimate the board's intelligence.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89069 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:50 pm to
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And with posters like LNCHBOX, you really have to wonder why I would ever overestimate the board's intelligence.



Your OP wasn't lost on me. Nice try though.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79390 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:54 pm to
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bullshite on this! I don't have a horse in the race, but give the man his due; Jennings throws a great deep ball whether or not the receiver is covered, whether or not the receiver adjusts.


bullshite on that. Show me a great deep ball he has thrown into coverage. I haven't seen him his Dural in stride on a deep ball once.
Posted by Duck enticer
Crowley
Member since Apr 2010
1351 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:59 pm to
He reminds me of Marcus Randall to be honest. Won't wow you, but will get wins.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:02 pm to
Mett had only two games against UF and he was marginal, at best.

Back to Jennings:

He has only started, what, 7 games? Give him a little more time, please.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9865 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:03 pm to
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He's terrible at throwing across the middle and stepping up in the pocket right now.

I don't think they've let him pass anywhere other than the sidelines for this reason.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7703 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:10 pm to
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bullshite on that. Show me a great deep ball he has thrown into coverage. I haven't seen him his Dural in stride on a deep ball once.
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