Started By
Message

re: Amazing Study of Contrasts - Miles/Saban philosophies

Posted on 10/25/11 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 12:22 pm to
Very good post! I agree.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56693 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 12:39 pm to
Bear said the same thing about his style and that of Bobby Dodd. Said he was tough on his players while Dodd was much easier and said there was no perfect way as each style worked for him and Dodd.

Or see the Orange Bowl when Bear took Kentucky to play Santa Clara. two completely different approaches and you might be surprised at who won.
Posted by LadyRPTiger
River Parishes
Member since Aug 2011
621 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

but if he loses to Miles next Saturday, that whole mystique will be gone. His record will be 2 - 5 vs. LSU.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
76882 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 12:57 pm to
I have been thinking the exact same thing. I think it will make a difference in a huge game like this.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8993 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:06 pm to
I said Saban was 2-2 against LSU SINCE COMING TO BAMA What part of that do you not understand?
Posted by wil
Member since Nov 2006
654 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:25 pm to
FWIW, IMHO: 1. We have a big advantage at QB. JL has thrown some perfect deep passes. And we have better receivers. I don't think McCarron is in Lee's league throwing deep.

2. I agree, TN stopped Richardson, and made McCarron beat them by passing. I don't think he can throw for 250 yards against our secondary.

3. We have essentially 8 starters on the DL. We can rotate them all game. They won't wear down in the 2nd half. Also, as someone said, LSU did well last year against almost same OL.

4. BAMA's advantage is that 3-4 defense. But it relies on receivers being jammed at the line and confusing the QB. Our receivers are very good. On the other hand, Saban's cornerbacks usually excel at bump and mug coverage. These matchups, and handling different linebackers rushing on each play, may be one key to the game.
Posted by Jacuzzitub
San Diego
Member since Mar 2008
359 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

It's been mentioned ad nasueum on these boards about the differences between Miles and Saban and their coaching philosophies.


Here's the difference.

When you play for Nick Saban, you play for HIS football team. You play for HIS career. You are there for HIM.

When you play for Les Miles, you play for YOUR football team. You play for YOUR teammates. He is there for YOU.

Write it in the sky over Bryant-Denny.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 10:49 pm
Posted by wil
Member since Nov 2006
654 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:54 pm to
Best (and truest) analysis yet. Pretty much says it all.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52143 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

The teams are virtually indistinguishable
I disagree.
quote:

The OLines are a push

Maybe.
quote:

Bama's only significant edge is at linebacker
Not true. They play a 3-4...doesn't compare well with our 4-3 and athletic D-line.

quote:

LSU's special teams, particularly the punt team is LSU's only significant advantage.
Agreed ST are a significant advantage for LSU...most underestimate the weight of this advantage.

quote:

LSU's DL is probably a little better and much deeper. Ditto for the Secondary.
Yes we are.

quote:

I think we have more guys who can make plays at receiver
Understated.


quote:

QBs are a push, except that we have 2.
So, that ain't equal...we're deeper with more varied skill.

quote:

They have a slight edge at RB, and we have a slight edge at FB.
Wrong. We are deeper at tailback and better at FB.

We're road tested and have beaten 5 ranked opponents by double digits...mostly blow-outs. This will not be a close game. those that think it will be have been drinking the network cool-aid...this is a 21 point Tiger win.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6846 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 6:07 am to
quote:

NC game vs tejas in '09. saban tried some new things and his team was just up to executing them. they won when they simply reverted to their bread and butter.
McCoy going out helped. A lot.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10348 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 6:25 am to
quote:

It's been mentioned ad nasueum on these boards about the differences between Miles and Saban and their coaching philosophies. While both are extremely successful, Miles' teams always appear to be having more fun, which allows them to play looser. Saban is such a hard arse, that his players sometimes seem to play tight and are afraid of making mistakes. Granted they are a well-oiled fundamentally sound machine, but never seem to be totally enjoying themselves.

I think the magnitude of the next 2 weeks is going to cause Saban much more stress. While he's busy dictating to the media trying to downplay the game and excitement, Miles is reveling in the moment. I did notice in the past in big games while at LSU that Saban appeared to get really conservative and the teams sometimes came out very tight (At Ole Miss for SEC West Championship comes to mind)

Because Miles has proven so successful with handling distractions and rolling with the punches this season, I'm going to give the edge to LSU. I think Bama tightens up in this game (including their coaching staff becoming overly conservative).

I can tell you one thing....LSU will be having much more fun these next 2 weeks enjoying the moment, and I think that translates to the field on Nov. 5.

LSU 20
Bama 13


I agree with this 100% a search of my posts would show that I have mentioned this before. LSU plays with passion, and Bama plays with fear. LSU players want to play hard for their coach, Bama players want to avoid an arse chewing. I say that will be the difference in this game. There will be a feeding frenzy in this game that will discourage the Tide and make it hard for them to pay well.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71232 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 7:16 am to
but if he loses to Miles next Saturday, that whole mystique will be gone

I call bs cuz this will not eva happen.

signed bama and rantards for saban
Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1164 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 7:25 am to
Good post. I see the biggest key being our ability to prevent them from picking up first downs. If put the in 3rd and 7+ and prevent the passes to the flat and H backs it will be a long night for Bama.
Posted by Txtiger54
League city,Tx
Member since Aug 2009
628 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 8:57 am to
uncommon cents, Agree with you totally, the refs are worth 7 points to bama, still think we have a shot beating bama , the refs, the home field, & all the gumps. Nov 5th can't get here soon enough.
Sincerly, Txtiger54
first pageprev pagePage 4 of 4Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram