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re: Alleva has denied Wade a golden opportunity

Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:32 pm to
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They do if the NCAA is watching HOW you handle this situation. Because, if you don't deal with it forcefully and immediately, The NCAA may levy the dreaded "Lack of Institutional Control" label on your program. That would be very very bad.


And this is the crux of it all. LSU believes the NCAA will ease up on sanctions if they play along. That is so wrong, it’s hard to even imagine a rational person thinking it’s true.

What is the NCAA watching closely? A media report from October and another from March? Because that’s that is out there. They aren’t investigating LSU, there is not notice of allegations.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:34 pm to
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Instead of giving Wade a chance to respond these fricking idiots get the NCAA involved from jump street and tell wade he can’t bring a lawyer.

WOW. The NCAA requested to be in the meeting. If you are LSU, you do not tell the NCAA "NO." Also, LSU (& the NCAA) wanted to hear directly from WW with no interference from a lawyer. LSU HAS THAT RIGHT. WW DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DICTATE TERMS TO HIS EMPLOYER.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6743 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:35 pm to
No he is not. He is refusing to meet with the NCAA present in the meeting. He was going to meet with them until our compliance department said it would be a good idea if the NCAA would also join the meeting. I’m not sure if you know how the NCAA works. Neither LSU or WW is under investigation right now. In order for an investigation to start the NCAA would:

1st - Send LSU a letter of inquiry
2nd - The NCAA waits for LSU’s response in writing to the specifics of the said allegations of the LOE
3rd - The NCAA then determines if they want to accept LSU’s finding of said allegations pertaining to the LOE
4th - If they are not satisfied with the response from LSU they would then send a letter to LSU notifying them that an investigation will begin in reference to the said allegations.

5th - From that point going forward the investigation continues. It could take a few months or usually it takes over a year for the investigation to wrap up

6th - When the investigation is complete they will determine if punishment is warranted. This usually takes time also.

Just a few references about investigations
Ole Miss football took a couple of years
North Carolina basketball took a couple of years ( and guess what. They found no wrong doing. HAHA)

Now back to your original wrong statement. Why would anyone agree to the NCAA sitting in on a meeting if you are not being OFFICIALLY investigated. Only Joe Aleeva and our compliance department would think this would be a good idea
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:36 pm to
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LSU believes the NCAA will ease up on sanctions if they play along. That is so wrong, it’s hard to even imagine a rational person thinking it’s true.

Because it is true. This is how the NCAA deals with schools who are in trouble. They have done this in the past. Check your history.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:38 pm to
Wrong the NCAA did not request anything our brilliant administration reached out first
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78029 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:39 pm to
And they have slammed schools who cooperate also.

The infraction is the infraction. Don’t help them, make them do the work.
Posted by Bigsampson
Fort Worth
Member since Apr 2017
442 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:39 pm to
If there is no investigation, Wade is under no requirement to talk to the NCAA.
This is a specious argument and not realistic.
If there was a relationship of trust between Alleva and Wade, I’m sguessing he would have gone to the meeting. But, because of things Alleva has done, no one trusts him.

For Alleva and King to have brought in lawyers and the ncaa, and not allowing Wade to bring his, they proved they could not be trusted.

Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:40 pm to
Alleva
quote:

Gray, you retarded piece of shite


Because I'm point out the obvious truth? BTW obscene name calling is an admission that you have lost the debate.

quote:

That’s not what’s being discussed here


So Wade broke NCAA rules which could likely result in serious penalties, is that right?

What is supposed to be discussed here is:
quote:

quote:

Alleva
has denied Wade a golden opportunity


So If Wade broke NCAA rules how is this Alleva's fault? Did he make him break the rules?

If I'm to believe you, he took a big chance in breaking NCAA rules.
Then he took another chance by refusing to meet with Alleva.

So how is this
quote:

Alleva has denied Wade a golden opportunity


Apparently the title should read: "Wade has denied Wade a golden opportunity"

The point is; no matter if many of you hate Alleva, this is a problem of Wade's making. Not Alleva's
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
23011 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:43 pm to
No wonder we can’t maintain succeful athletics. Anybody that supports this current administration should be lbanned from all LSU sporting events for life
Posted by Bigsampson
Fort Worth
Member since Apr 2017
442 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:44 pm to
Once again, the propaganda and partial truths persist.

The NCAA has NEVER said Wade or LSU is under investigation.

There are only PARTIAL snippets of tapes that have been revealed. NO ONE has provided ANY context.

LSU Admins made this sooo much worse. Not saying Wade did, or did not, commit an offense. But, he deserves his day in court.

A FAIR day.
Not some railroad job set up by Alleva and King.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20281 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Because it is true.
actually, no.
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1685 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Wade refused to meet with his BOSS.
Wade agreed to meet with his BOSS and his BOSSES BOSS.

Fact.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
23011 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:48 pm to
So let’s get this straight, wade is being called as a witness not a defendant, Correct?

There has been no investigation that shows wade has done anything wrong and you say he has broken rules. No wonder you like Alleva you think like he does.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:48 pm to
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No he is not. He is refusing to meet with the NCAA present in the meeting. He was going to meet with them until our compliance department said it would be a good idea if the NCAA would also join the meeting. I’m not sure if you know how the NCAA works. Neither LSU or WW is under investigation right now. In order for an investigation to start the NCAA would:

1st - Send LSU a letter of inquiry
2nd - The NCAA waits for LSU’s response in writing to the specifics of the said allegations of the LOE
3rd - The NCAA then determines if they want to accept LSU’s finding of said allegations pertaining to the LOE
4th - If they are not satisfied with the response from LSU they would then send a letter to LSU notifying them that an investigation will begin in reference to the said allegations.

5th - From that point going forward the investigation continues. It could take a few months or usually it takes over a year for the investigation to wrap up

6th - When the investigation is complete they will determine if punishment is warranted. This usually takes time also.

Just a few references about investigations
Ole Miss football took a couple of years
North Carolina basketball took a couple of years ( and guess what. They found no wrong doing. HAHA)

Now back to your original wrong statement. Why would anyone agree to the NCAA sitting in on a meeting if you are not being OFFICIALLY investigated. Only Joe Aleeva and our compliance department would think this would be a good idea



Solid post.

I wonder how much Gray and Irish get paid to lie for the administration?
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78029 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:48 pm to
You don’t get it gray. I’ve explained the issues with your “argument”.

Go watch murder she wrote
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:48 pm to
Gray...just wanted to let you know I gladly downvoted everyone of your pathetic posts.
See....this is what being a dickhead on the rants entitles you to.

Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:54 pm to
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The infraction is the infraction. Don’t help them, make them do the work.


WOW. Then you guys really don't know the history of NCAA rule infractions. Sorry.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78029 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:55 pm to
Tell that to Missouri
Posted by Cajunomics
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2010
891 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:55 pm to
Alleva can get fricked.

I will rejoice the day he is removed from LSU.

Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
23011 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:57 pm to
Alleva has a track record of overreacting. See Duke Lacrosse

The Missouri reference is gold. Well done
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 8:59 pm
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