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re: Alleva didn't have the cojones to call Miles' bluff........

Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:27 pm to


this isn't the movies son. alleva "won" these negotiations even tho you don't think so. i guess you don't count.
Posted by Gulffisherman
Bogalusa
Member since Oct 2009
3531 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:28 pm to
Alleva
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

what bluff?


Hmmm, in other threads, you said that there was no way that Miles would leave for lowly Arkansas. In fact, you were so confident that you promised to superglue your cock to your leg if it happened. Hence, it certainly appears as if you were of the opinion that Arkansas did not present a realtic threat to purloin away Miles.

And yet now you say "What bluff"?

Well sir, the Arkansas bluff, the one you wagered your penis on.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

It is clear that most of you have only signed the back of payroll checks and never the front. Good business move plain and simple. The market is what it is.


great way to put it. i, too, have signed the front and know the value of productivity. paying miles to stay is a no brainer. i'd rather pay a little too much for productivity than throw away money on the non productive.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Hence, it certainly appears as if you were of the opinion that Arkansas did not present a realtic threat to purloin away Miles.


right

quote:

And yet now you say "What bluff"?


yes

quote:

Well sir, the Arkansas bluff, the one you wagered your penis on.


i still haven't heard anything regarding a "bluff" by Miles. Perhaps you can put all this info together for me and tell me what i'm missing.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:58 pm to
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still haven't heard anything regarding a "bluff" by Miles. Perhaps you can put all this info together for me and tell me what i'm missing.


What your missing, of course, is the power of deduction.

If Miles had immediately told Alleva that he had absolutely no intention of taking the Arkansas offer, then Alleva wouldn't have given him a raise, right? There would have been no leverage that required a raise, in that instance.

Hence, we can deduce - special word - that Miles must have either remained silent on his intentions or given some indication that he was seriously considering the Arkansas proposal.

And THAT would be the bluff, since - as you agree - Miles never really intended to accept the Ark job.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37935 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

If Miles had immediately told Alleva that he had absolutely no intention of taking the Arkansas offer, then Alleva wouldn't have given him a raise, right?



Wrong they were already working on a new deal..
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:04 pm to
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Wrong they were already working on a new deal..


I just want to be clear. Is it really your position that the unspecified raise that Miles recieved today was completely unrelated to the Arkansas offer and that Miles and his agent never used that offer as leverage in negotiations?
Posted by Gulffisherman
Bogalusa
Member since Oct 2009
3531 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:05 pm to
quote:
It is clear that most of you have only signed the back of payroll checks and never the front. Good business move plain and simple. The market is what it is.



great way to put it. i, too, have signed the front and know the value of productivity. paying miles to stay is a no brainer. i'd rather pay a little too much for productivity than throw away money on the non productive.


What ever happened to living up the contract you are under?? And yes, I have signed both the front and back of pay checks.



Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37935 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

I just want to be clear. Is it really your position that the unspecified raise that Miles recieved today was completely unrelated to the Arkansas offer and that Miles and his agent never used that offer as leverage in negotiations?



Did it speed it up? Prolly, but he was getting a raise no matter what, hasn't gotten one since 2007. Have no problem with it at all.


I would hope that no one really thought he was gonna leave LSU for arky, that's just silly.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37935 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

What ever happened to living up the contract you are under?? And yes, I have signed both the front and back of pay checks.



Mcdonald's don't count..

So you have never gotten a raise? Been given a raise? Or you just said "no,no" you hired me at this price and Ill just stay here till I retire?

Gtfo..
Posted by tigerfan182
Franklin, Tn
Member since Sep 2009
2779 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:12 pm to
Would you?
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18216 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:13 pm to
Just making stuff up now.

You have no idea what happened.
Posted by Dinkle
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
1255 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:27 pm to
It's funny as hell that everyone here is talking about the fact that Miles was due an upcoming raise as if it was common knowledge. What happened? One person on here mentioned it and now everyone is talking as if the whole world knew about it. Why weren't there multiple threads about this yesterday?
Posted by Gulffisherman
Bogalusa
Member since Oct 2009
3531 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:31 pm to
Mcdonald's don't count..

So you have never gotten a raise? Been given a raise? Or you just said "no,no" you hired me at this price and Ill just stay here till I retire?

Gtfo..

A. No, not fast food
B. Yes, I have gotten a raise that I did not ask for and have given people raises they didnt ask for.
C. You sound like you would not be surprised and agree to when the contractor tells you your $300,000 house being built is now going to cost you $400,000.00

GTFO? have a nice day

Miles wasnt going to Arky anyway
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 5:32 pm
Posted by LSUviaCincy
Cincinnati
Member since Sep 2011
874 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:32 pm to
It may be a shock but the Rant is not privy to information about contract hiring and negotiations in real time. Maybe that perk is available as a Platinum service. By the time it shows up here it is old news. Carry on...
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37935 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:32 pm to
If you can't use the quote button, GTFO


Are you retarded?

We have already established you are a fricking idiot, that's for sure..

quote:

Miles wasnt going to Arky anyway



No shite, but he was getting a raise either way dumb arse..
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 5:34 pm
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13055 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:37 pm to
Under either scenario, Aleva failed.
Posted by Tyger1919
Pineville
Member since Sep 2009
1020 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:40 pm to
The only problem I have is that Miles didn't win the SEC or BCSNC, those should be the only two things to get a raise, he had a good year and his current contract is enough for that, now if he has a bad year can we renegotiate and pay him less?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85605 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

plain & simple


And you had faith in him to go out and make a good hire?

But in all reality. He was getting the raise regardless. he hasnt had one since 07. He deserved it. hes dedicated to LSU. You cant put a price on that. Longest tenured coach since cholly mac. Stability at the top is actually more important than some of you think.
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