re: All we need is good QB play right?

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And then it should be a shoe in for a national championship?

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Well, until I see the defense this year, it would be impossible to say if QB play is "all" we need.

But, I can say without absolutely no trepidation that if our QB play is not SUBSTANTIALLY better than it was last year, we will still blow about 5 games.

And, if the defense happens to fall off on top of our shitty QB play? Well..........let's just try not to think about it.

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Honey Badger is who took the fight out of Arkansas in that game. 

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So JJ didn't have the season's best game of any lsu qb against Arky? Yes he did. 208 yards passing ,62 % completion and 58 yards rushing. These are facts.

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It's crazy that anyone can look back and defend that pitiful shite unless they just didn't watch football all season

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Because facts prove you wrong. November was by far our best offensive month. Sorry you don't like those facts but that's what they are.
Facts proving our offense got better in the last month of the regular season when we played 2 top 3 teams. get over it. our offense didn't suck when JJ was the starter.

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Someone said something about only having 2 bad QB's under Miles and threw Lee in the "good" pile with Russell, Flynn, and Mett.

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Really? Because this was my exact post:

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Jamarcus Russell, Matt Flynn, RP, Mett, even Jarrett Lee looked alright his senior year. The only shitty QB's he's had have been Jefferson and Jennings since he got here

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I definitely put Lee in a category of his own after his stable performance in the first 8 games but lemme get this straight: you're such a moron that you're going to twist a statement that I made 12 hours ago but you think that your opinion is credible about events that happened 4 years ago?

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I laughed at that and then people started yelling about 1/9

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Not really, one person mentioned 9-6 in a reply to you and you opened the door for the JL vs JJ debate. And you're the one who singled out JL in my original post when he was nothing more than a side note. I said that Les Miles had had 3 good QB's, 1 mediocre QB, and 2 terrible QB's (1 of which still has room to improve although it's unlikely) in his tenure and I was exactly right.

People have given you stats. People have given you extremely detailed breakdowns of the 5 games that JJ started vs the 8 games that JL started. People have repeatedly broken down why your twisted stats are bullshite. You still choose to see Jarrett Lee as a garbage QB who was worse than honestly the most painfully bad junior/senior QB I've ever seen at LSU. Not sure what to tell you, go back through this thread and check out your downvotes, you're in the very very small portion of the fanbase that sees Jefferson as better than Lee

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Because facts prove you wrong. November was by far our best offensive month. Sorry you don't like those facts but that's what they are.

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We passed for 700+ yards in September when Lee started, 700+ yards in October when Lee started, and 500 yards in November after Jefferson came back. Our passing offense was substantially worse with him in the game. Our total yards spiked because we played against the 2 of the worst rushing defenses that we faced all year in Ole Miss and Western Kentucky along with a bad Arkansas. Do you really not understand that your "facts" don't involve Jordan Jefferson at all? Why don't you look at the passing stats that, you know...actually involve the quarterback instead of adding rushing stats in there that Jefferson didn't really have an effect on?

Here's a fact for you:

Average passing yards in the 8 games that Lee got the majority of the snaps: 183

Average passing yards in the 6 games that Jefferson got the majority of the snaps: 111

Want to bitch and leave out the postseason? He still only threw for an average of 146 yards.

And if Jefferson did such a good job bolstering our running game then why did we only rush for 38 yards against Alabama? You'd think that if he was such a secret weapon rushing sparkplug we would've at least run for 100 yards considering we did it in 13 straight games beforehand

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Here's a fact for you: 

Average passing yards in the 8 games that Lee got the majority of the snaps: 183 

Average passing yards in the 6 games that Jefferson got the majority of the snaps: 111 

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You mean we rushed for more yards with a mobile QB and passed for more yards with a dropback passer?

Color me shocked.

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And if Jefferson did such a good job bolstering our running game then why did we only rush for 38 yards against Alabama?

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I can think of a few reasons...


Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, first round
C.J. Mosley, LB, first round
Ed Stinson, DE, fifth round
Vinnie Sunseri, S, fifth round
Dee Milliner, CB, first round
Nico Johnson, LB, fourth round
Quinton Dial, DE, fifth round
Jesse Williams DT, fifth round
Mark Barron, S, first round
Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, first round
Dont’a Hightower, LB, first round
DeQuan Menzie, CB, fifth round
Courtney Upshaw, DE, second round
Josh Chapman, DT, fifth round

Want to compare how many players from that team LSU had drafted on offense?

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I can think of a few reasons...

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Yup... That Bama D was impressive...........

But yet UGA's D wasn't as good and JJ really wasn't a factor in the win... His games against Ole Miss and WKU were against a couple of the worst D's in the country.....

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You mean we rushed for more yards with a mobile QB and passed for more yards with a dropback passer?

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Arkansas had the 73rd ranked rushing defense, Ole Miss had the 118th ranked rushing defense, and Western Kentucky was terrible. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, the fact that we were playing teams with terrible rushing defenses might have had something to do with our sudden spike in rushing yards?

We averaged over 310 yards rushing in the 3 games that Jefferson started. Jefferson averaged 33.3 yards in those 3 games.

But the spike in rushing was definitely because of him and not the fact that we faced weaker than average defenses and our running backs went off!!11!!!

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stats? dont care. This image sums up my thoughts on this guy. look at him. /thread

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