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re: All we need is good QB play right?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:42 pm to southeasttiger113
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:42 pm to southeasttiger113
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They weren't
His career yards per attempt 7.0 is higher than Flynn's in 2007 which was 6.7. So if JJ'S career yards per attempt wasn't high in then Flynn's wasn't in 2007.
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:52 pm to Powerman
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The point is if he was any good he would have better stats because he had so many starts
What? He isn't top 5 in starts and is top 6 in every major passing statistic and is top 5 in yards and tds. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:52 pm to chilge1
quote:No, those were Jefferson's contributions to Byrd's career numbers. I don't think you understand how being a wide receiver works.
Here was Byrd's contribution to Jefferson's career numbers
8 rec. 77 yards
quote:Oh yea I forgot that according to you and Rick, Jefferson only got 2 years of playing time. That's why he's ranked 5th all time in attempts at LSU, interesting take
Jefferson didn't play in 2008
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:They weren't. His stats weren't good by any means but he was the opposite of Jordan Jefferson. Excellent game manager, knew the offense like the back of his hand, good character, great field presence and leadership, clutch as hell, and all around good at running the offense despite the fact that his stats might not tell the whole story
So if JJ'S career yards per attempt wasn't high in then Flynn's wasn't in 2007.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:02 pm to southeasttiger113
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Oh yea I forgot that according to you and Rick, Jefferson only got 2 years of playing time. That's why he's ranked 5th all time in attempts at LSU, interesting take
JJ isn't top 6 in qb starts yet is top 6 in every major passing statistic.
I'm sorry that FACTS AND stats prove JJ didn't have shitty career. I have facts you have your biased opinion that's been proven to be insignificant when discussing football.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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In over 120 years of football, 5 qbs have a higher career completion % than JJ
Give me the stats of the top 5 please..............
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:16 pm to southeasttiger113
Bottonline
Since 1970 no program in the sec has produced more nfl qbs than LSU.
JJ is not top 6 in starts.
JJ is top 5 in attempts. He has used those attempts to achieve these rankings at a top 15 alltime program that has produced more nfl qbs , since 1970n than any sec program.
5th in wins
5th in passing tds
6th in passing yards
6th in compl %
1st in career qb rushing yards
1st in single season qb rushing yards
5th in total offensive yards
5th in total tds.
In no way is that a shitty career. You may hate everything about JJ but his career wasn't horrible. His character and intangibles may make him a below average player once you factor that in but his play was not shite while at lsu.
Since 1970 no program in the sec has produced more nfl qbs than LSU.
JJ is not top 6 in starts.
JJ is top 5 in attempts. He has used those attempts to achieve these rankings at a top 15 alltime program that has produced more nfl qbs , since 1970n than any sec program.
5th in wins
5th in passing tds
6th in passing yards
6th in compl %
1st in career qb rushing yards
1st in single season qb rushing yards
5th in total offensive yards
5th in total tds.
In no way is that a shitty career. You may hate everything about JJ but his career wasn't horrible. His character and intangibles may make him a below average player once you factor that in but his play was not shite while at lsu.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Only 4 lsu players have accounted for pretty total offense. 1. Tommy Hodson 8,938 yards 2.Jeff Wickersham 6,705 yards 3.JaMarcus Russell 6,704 yards 4.Herb Tyler 6,654 yards 5.Jordan Jefferson 5,751 yards
That's fine... But LSU has never been know as a passing school..........
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:26 pm to southeasttiger113
My own Personal Rankings....
JaMarcus Russell........ 147.9 QBR 493/797 61.9% 8.31 ypa 6625 yards 52 TD
Zach Mettenberger..... 148.4 QBR 407/659 61.7% 8.78 ypa 5784 yards 35 TD
Tommy Hodson......... 136.3 QBR 674/1163 58.0% 7.84 ypa 9115 yards 69 TD
Herb Tyler................. 141.3 QBR 434/715 60.7% 8.22 ypa 5876 yards 40 TD
Rohan Davey.............. 151.2 QBR 286/478 59.8% 9.23 ypa 4415 yards 29 TD
Alan Risher................. 133.4 QBR 381/615 62.0% 7.45 ypa 4585 yards 31 TD
Matt Mauck................ 135.7 QBR 310/529 58.6% 7.24 ypa 3831 yards 37 TD
Matt Flynn.................. 133.0 QBR 245/437 56.1% 7.08 ypa 3096 yards 31 TD
Jordan Jefferson......... 127.8 QBR 397/678 58.7% 6.98 ypa 4733 yards 34 TD
Jarrett Lee.................. 126.1 QBR 317/565 56.1% 6.99 ypa 3949 yards 32 TD
Jamie Howard............ 106.5 QBR 459/934 49.1% 6.59 ypa 6158 yards 34 TD
Jeff Wickersham......... 116.7 QBR 587/1105 58.4% 6.26 ypa 6921 yards 25 TD
Josh Booty.................. 104.3 QBR 307/623 49.3% 6.34 ypa 3951 yards 24 TD
JaMarcus Russell........ 147.9 QBR 493/797 61.9% 8.31 ypa 6625 yards 52 TD
Zach Mettenberger..... 148.4 QBR 407/659 61.7% 8.78 ypa 5784 yards 35 TD
Tommy Hodson......... 136.3 QBR 674/1163 58.0% 7.84 ypa 9115 yards 69 TD
Herb Tyler................. 141.3 QBR 434/715 60.7% 8.22 ypa 5876 yards 40 TD
Rohan Davey.............. 151.2 QBR 286/478 59.8% 9.23 ypa 4415 yards 29 TD
Alan Risher................. 133.4 QBR 381/615 62.0% 7.45 ypa 4585 yards 31 TD
Matt Mauck................ 135.7 QBR 310/529 58.6% 7.24 ypa 3831 yards 37 TD
Matt Flynn.................. 133.0 QBR 245/437 56.1% 7.08 ypa 3096 yards 31 TD
Jordan Jefferson......... 127.8 QBR 397/678 58.7% 6.98 ypa 4733 yards 34 TD
Jarrett Lee.................. 126.1 QBR 317/565 56.1% 6.99 ypa 3949 yards 32 TD
Jamie Howard............ 106.5 QBR 459/934 49.1% 6.59 ypa 6158 yards 34 TD
Jeff Wickersham......... 116.7 QBR 587/1105 58.4% 6.26 ypa 6921 yards 25 TD
Josh Booty.................. 104.3 QBR 307/623 49.3% 6.34 ypa 3951 yards 24 TD
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
in what imaginary world are character and intangibles not factored in when you're talking about good how a player was? You're living in a fricking fantasyland where a compilation of stats trumps the events that happened in real life
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:30 pm to chilge1
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chilge1
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My own Personal Rankings....
Nice list............. I agree..............
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:40 pm to southeasttiger113
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in what imaginary world are character and intangibles not factored in when you're talking about good how a player was?
Be careful. The NFL has a Hall of Fame and character is not heavily factored in as much as production. Btw, it's located in the unimaginary state of Ohio.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:41 pm to dukke v
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That's fine... But LSU has never been know as a passing school.......
OK but we have produced nfl qbs. Since 1970 no sec program has produced more nfl qbs than lsu.
lsu has the most qbs drafted since 1970
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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OK but we have produced nfl qbs. Since 1970 no sec program has produced more nfl qbs than lsu.
That's still not saying much. The sec didn't really become a passing league till the 80's... I know you are reaching for any possible little nugget you can to make it look like JJ is a top tier QB.. IMO he was average at best.... And the amount of posts you have wasted by repeating over and over and over and over is getting old...
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:50 pm to southeasttiger113
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in what imaginary world are character and intangibles not factored in when you're talking about good how a player was? You're living in a fricking fantasyland where a compilation of stats trumps the events that happened in real life
Holy shite. You're the dumbass using immeasurable things to rank qbs. It's laughable how you haven't used any facts in your arguments and use immeasurable intangibles to rank qbs.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:51 pm to dukke v
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I know you are reaching for any possible little nugget you can to make it look like JJ is a top tier Q
Holy shite. I've repeatedly said JJ wasnt a good qb, BUT he certainly wasn't horrible and damn sure didn't have a horrible career. How many times do I have to tell you that peej?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:51 pm to dukke v
Ok guys.. Look it was four years ago, they were both bad quarterbacks. Now can we please just start looking forward to next year and quit rambling the same things on this thread day in and day out.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 3:08 pm to Will2nd
Did jordan Jefferson have NFL hall of fame numbers or something that I'm not aware of?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 3:09 pm to Not Cooper
Thank you /thread
Posted on 7/14/15 at 3:17 pm to southeasttiger113
You were proven wrong the entire thread. You ask any lsu fan on the planet if they would sign up for a 4 year qb that would finish top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history and every single one says frick yeah.
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