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re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !

Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:29 am to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33884 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:29 am to
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I have to agree with that one myself. Bama finally has a Great QB to go along with the rest of the top tier talent and depth. Georgia may be just as good. NO matter how great a coaching job that's almost two automatic losses right there. Tough, very tough schedule.


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thats fcking loser talk right there. some of the most embarrassing shite I have ever seen posted on this board. and how many times exactly did fans make excuses for Les or Saban when they faced a tough schedule


We didn't have automatic losses for most of Les's tenure. When we did, it was time for him to go.

Now we're year two of O's tenure and we're talking about automatic losses. Why is he even here?
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8106 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:41 am to
I hear he eats gumbo without rice...revolutionary
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:09 am to
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how many times exactly did fans make excuses for Les or Saban when they faced a tough schedule?


None that anyone paid any attention to.

It's some funny shite to see these guys making excuses for another possible failed season for O because he has to play a hard schedule maybe. As if the past staff didn't play a hard schedule every fricking year.

Hell, this year we played the easiest schedule in twenty years with a senior QB and all SEC RB and had four defeats.

It's time for O to put up or head out of town and take Alleva with him.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32992 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:19 am to
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We didn't have automatic losses for most of Les's tenure. When we did, it was time for him to go.



true story
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:31 am to
It is mind boggling , really.

Miles was fired because he "couldn't beat Saban" (despite beating him 3 times), yet Orgeron is given a pass because "well everyone loses to bama so thats a loss".
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32992 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:34 am to
O himself said he wanted to compete for championships "quickly". now his supporters are giving him passes on "auto losses". everyday this insane experiment makes me
Posted by JesuitBlueJay
Member since Jan 2016
89 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:07 pm to
“Established a really good staff”, are you out of your mind. He hired Mickey Joseph and two 70 year olds that don’t recruit. Alabama has two ex-head coaches on support staff while Orgeron hires his sons’ high school coach, not to mention Steve Ensminger as Offensive Coordinator. This is a horrendous staff filled with Orgeron’s cronies and only has two real recruiters. Orgeron is a joke but, but, but he is from Louisiana and in sone eyes that is enough. His hiring and his coaching ability is based on Aranda and Ensminger. Coach O might mean well but, he is just not the caliber of a top 10 program coach, considering no one else wanted him.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38392 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:55 pm to
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It's some funny shite to see these guys making excuses for another possible failed season for O because he has to play a hard schedule maybe.


It's because it's more about O than it is about LSU. This is why they project the "LSU hate" onto critics. At the end of the day, that group likes O more than they like LSU.

They paint O as the only coach who has to deal with hard schedules, playing freshman, "unfair" critics, bad decisions, coaches that don't cooperate, playing Bama, and a whole host of other excuses.

Failing to understand that every single coach deals with adversity and somehow, they can win.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11300 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:03 pm to
New Binders????

Oh Boy! The old ones weren't working.
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4676 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:04 pm to
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“Established a really good staff”, are you out of your mind


no I am not out of my mind

I used to be but I got over it

stop it with the Nick this and Nick that

I got over that short pimp years ago

I think that O has put together a great staff and last time I looked I have the right to that view. After we beat The Canes - Auburn - Georgia - Florida - Bama

most folk will agree it's a great staff

LOL - I mind have lost my mind again

That would be awesome
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104040 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:12 pm to
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I think that O has put together a great staff and last time I looked I have the right to that view. 

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you thought the same thing at this time last year as well.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16106 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:47 pm to
well saying Bama will be unbeatable (by anybody) this coming season may be over stating it. But MIles (nor any other coach) has had to face a bama team with a game changer type QB. I think that is going to be the difference between bama in past seasons and what they have now (and until Tuovioso leaves). He's just that good. Did you not see the NC game once he came in (as a true freshman with almost zero game experience.)

I'm not a Saben nut hugger by any means, but I have to give him credit for being the greatest recruitier in the history of college football by a lot. They have still been beatable in the past because he is very average in other aspects of coaching and also never had a really great QB. But now with a real big time QB, it doesn't matter what Sabon does from a coaching aspect it will be hard for Bama to lose.

I don't have any worries about O, Aranda and Ensminger out coaching Bama (Hell, Miles, Cameron, and Chavis did it), just the talent they have right now combined with that little QB is quite a lot to overcome, much more than in past years.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62354 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:13 pm to
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I don't have any worries about O, Aranda and Ensminger out coaching Bama (Hell, Miles, Cameron, and Chavis did it)


I love your parenthetical. It's funny to see the O sycophants push their agenda.

And Bama's QB may or may not pan out, but AJ McCarron was no slouch statistically, but Miles had to face him.

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he is very average in other aspects of coaching



He's the greatest college football coach in history, and he's still actively coaching in our division.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7940 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:15 pm to
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TigerCliff777


Ya know it’s allowed to put sentences next to each other..right? It’s called a paragraph
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33884 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:19 pm to
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he is very average in other aspects of coaching


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He's the greatest college football coach in history, and he's still actively coaching in our division.


Yeah, it's precisely the type of slight that the guy you quoted expressed that led us to hire Orgeron in the first place.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16106 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:44 pm to
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He's the greatest college football coach in history, and he's still actively coaching in our division


recruiting wise, with out a doubt by far, not even close. But on the field they have been beatable as LSU and other teams have done. Once he gets the players he is still a very good coach not unlike many other good coaches.

probably would take the best team we have had in the last 20 years to beat them this season,( and at least until tuovisio goes), but with this staff and these players, and depending on how fast these young QB's can develop, I feel we may just have that or at least have the potential to possibly have that type talent, to play with one heartbeat, and overcome even the greatest of mountains.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104040 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:47 pm to
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probably would take the best team we have had in the last 20 years to beat them this season,( and at least until tuovisio goes), but with this staff and these players, and depending on how fast these young QB's can develop, I feel we may just have that or at least have the potential to possibly have that type talent

Am I reading too much into this or are you saying this is going to be Saban's best team in 20 years and that LSU has chance to beat them because of the staff?

My apologies if I'm misreading or twisting your post.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62354 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:48 pm to
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to play with one heartbeat


Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:10 pm to
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They have still been beatable in the past because he is very average in other aspects of coaching and also never had a really great QB. But now with a real big time QB, it doesn't matter what Sabon does from a coaching aspect it will be hard for Bama to lose.


A real big time QB?

remember when Anthony Jennings threw a bomb to Dural in 2013 and everyone was like oh frick yeah , zach who?

lets not give Tua the 2018 Heisman just yet, slugger. he still made some very freshman mistakes, and is also dealing with an OC change, like LSU's QBs.

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just the talent they have right now combined with that little QB is quite a lot to overcome, much more than in past years.


for years we have heard how lsu is *right there* (I am holding my index finger and thumb so close together you cant see the light passing between them) in terms of matching bama with talent, and that the reason LSU kept losing to bama was because Les just couldnt get over that Bama hump.

now that O is here Bama is some juggernaut that can't be beaten?

LINK

BAMA checks in at 103 on that list. they lost the best D-lineman, their two best LBs, and almost their entire secondary, two starters on the OL, their leading rusher and receiver. sure, bama has talent in spades, but throw in the fact that bama is also replacing its OC and DC, and they are not as invincible as yall want to make them out to be.

Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:40 pm to
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talent, to play with one heartbeat, and overcome even the greatest of mountains.

my god
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