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re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:34 am to Nix to Twillie
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:34 am to Nix to Twillie
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The ONLY record that matters is his LSU record,
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Coach Eaux took over a USC team that had gone 4-7 its last 11 games leading to Kiffin being told Bye-Bye on the airport tarmac. Eaux took the deflated team to a 5-2 record, win over the #4 team in the country, a national ranking and a bowl game.
What Ree meant is only the records that portray him in a positive light matter. The bad stuff doesn't. Your bad.
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:38 am to boxcar willie
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yes when we had on offense Mett, Landry, OBJ, Hill, Blue, Travis Dickson at TE, and Trai Turner, Lael Collins, V. Alexander, J Hawkins on the OL and still managed to finish 7th in the SEC in total offense and 5-3 in the SEC. I would say he way under achieved. It was Camerons first season as OC at LSU and he went steadily down hill from there
33rd in offense. Not great but not shabby for guys learning a new offense. If the 33rd ranked offense was only good for 7th in the SEC then there were some really good offenses that year.
And the defense was bad that year, that's why we lost so much.
We should've been able to keep that going but Les didn't recruit well enough at QB.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:40 am to boxcar willie
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7th in the SEC in total offense
Wouldn’t have figured you’re a volume stat simpleton with as enlightened as you claim to be.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:42 am to Goldrush25
YPP and YPG and PPG are better indicators especially for SEc offenses. all relative. some mickey mouse teams will have way higher rankings but for obvious reasons not used in calculating rankings.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:51 am to baobabtiger
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1. He was fired after one year
That does not make it a botched hire. He is gone because he did not get along with the other coaches for one thing. Maybe others but not because of the way he was hired.
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Ending as the 15th ranked class for LSU after 1.5 seasons of being head coach sucks
Here's the rankings for a team you may have heard of. Do they suck?
2013: 15 Clemson
2014: 16 Clemson
2015: 9 Clemson
2016: 11 Clemson
2017: 16 Clemson
In 2015 when they lost to Bama 45-40 in the championship game they only played and beat four ranked teams while going undefeated during the regular season and first playoff game:
#6 Notre Dame
#16 Florida State
#10 North Carolina
#4 Oklahoma
lost to:
#2 Alabama
In 2016:
They played 3 SEC teams winning all three games.
Auburn
South Carolina 56-7
#1 Alabama
In addition to wins over:
#3 Louisville
#12 Florida State
#23 Virginia Tech
#3 Ohio State
#1 Alabama
In 2017:
they again played 3 SEC teams going 2-1:
SEC West champion Auburn #12 Auburn W 14-6
#24 South Carolina W 34-10
National Champion Alabama L 24-6
In addition to wins over:
#14 Louisville
#12 Virginia Tech
#20 NC State
#7 Miami
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:56 am to Goldrush25
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was only good for 7th in the SEC then there were some really good offenses that year.
none, except Bama, had close to the talent level we had on offense. Our YPP greatly benefitted from the YAC from having players who could break tackles and a lot of yards after the catch or run such as Hill, Landry and Beckham who continuously bailed out this offense by making 3rd down circus catches. Still overall finished middle of the pack.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 11:00 am
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:58 am to Tiger Ree
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That does not make it a botched hire. He is gone because he did not get along with the other coaches for one thing.
Pure speculation on my part, but the fact that Canada didn't run the kind of offense that O wanted to run is probably a big reason why they didn't get along.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:59 am to lsu2006
....yes indeed!
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:00 am to TigerCliff777
Coach O was behind the 8 ball from jump on this board.
Like every LSU coach, if he’s not perfect, he sucks.
Like every LSU coach, if he’s not perfect, he sucks.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:01 am to VOR
He was behind the 8 ball because he was woefully underqualified to be a P5 head coach.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:06 am to TigerLunatik
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and O gives them that spark with his gimmicks
Please explain or at least list a few of these gimmicks you are aware of. If I heard of them I have forgotten. Thanks in advance !!!
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That's why he's a good interim coach, but that stuff gets old quick.
How quick? How long does it last when an interim takes over a failing program?
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Also, the way he coached as interim was free and loose, you could see it at every press conference, then last year, the pressures of answering questions as the full time head coach clearly got to him and he wasn't so free and loose anymore
Yeah, I remember at USC when he would show up at pressers wearing sunglasses, Hawaiian shirt with a bottle of sunscreen in the pocket and his suitcase with a Hawaii tag on it. He was much more relaxed back then.
for some one on this board - the above paragraph is satire.
I have never heard anyone EVER say Eaux was loose or relaxed. Intense is what I have always heard.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:12 am to Tiger Ree
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Please explain or at least list a few of these gimmicks you are aware of. If I heard of them I have forgotten. Thanks in advance !!!
Tell the truth Monday and every other themed weekday
"One team, one heartbeat"
That purple and gold chain on the locker room
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How quick? How long does it last when an interim takes over a failing program?
If I had an exact answer for you, I would be the AD. And if you're saying LSU was a failing program, I don't see how you can say a 9 win season was a success last year.
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Yeah, I remember at USC when he would show up at pressers wearing sunglasses, Hawaiian shirt with a bottle of sunscreen in the pocket and his suitcase with a Hawaii tag on it. He was much more relaxed back then.
Again with the twisting and going too far with things. When he was the interim coach all questions were met with smiles and and laid back responses. Last year, that turned to "I'm the head coach, we're gonna do what I wanna do" when asked tough questions.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 11:15 am
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:24 am to justice
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Yea REE is an idiot. He spouts O LSU record is all that matters. Then spots the interim records to help his argument. He’s all over Os nutsack.
Did you NOT see where my response to Richdaddy where I said "comparing the most recent decade".
I'm not spouting Eaux's interim gigs. I am comparing the two coaches' recent wins and losses with what they had to work with. Richmomma touts Hotlips loss to UCONN as this great job of coaching. I disagree.
IF Hotlips had been a coach over a decade ago, I would not use that information because it is useless in current time.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:26 am to Goldrush25
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What Ree meant is only the records that portray him in a positive light matter. The bad stuff doesn't. Your bad.
No, what Ree was doing was comparing the tenures of Hotlips and Eaux. Hotlips tenure is rather short.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:29 am to TigerLunatik
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Pure speculation
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big reason why they didn't get along
Which could be more speculation. I have seen it posted that it was Aranda who didn't get along with Canada. Who knows?
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:32 am to TigerLunatik
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He was behind the 8 ball because he was woefully underqualified to be a P5 head coach.
Based upon whose judgment, yours?
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:33 am to Tiger Ree
If the post I responded to was talking about Canada and Aranda not getting along, then I apologize. I was referring strictly to O and Canada.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:37 am to Tiger Ree
Based upon his record as a head coach. IMO, a coach that was THAT unsuccessful as a head coach needs to prove himself at a smaller school before he gets a bigger job. All of P5 is probably an exaggeration. A Rutgers or a Kansas or something where they're willing to take a risk. If he does well there and proves he's changed his ways, then bring him to a place like LSU
And I absolutely think he deserved a chance at a smaller school to prove that. Again, that's my opinion, I'm certainly not qualified to be an AD at any school. If being addicted to football for 40+ years was enough to be qualified for an AD position, we'd all be applying for the job.
And I absolutely think he deserved a chance at a smaller school to prove that. Again, that's my opinion, I'm certainly not qualified to be an AD at any school. If being addicted to football for 40+ years was enough to be qualified for an AD position, we'd all be applying for the job.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:38 am to Tiger Ree
Based on his resume. It’s not subjective it’s facts as in Syracuse wouldnt hire him. He did not have a P5 resume. That’s no personal judgment it’s just is.
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:44 am to Tiger Ree
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Herman?
Would you care to share with us the results of his offense vs the University of Alabama, with his third string QB at the helm?
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