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re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !
Posted on 3/9/18 at 11:52 pm to Nix to Twillie
Posted on 3/9/18 at 11:52 pm to Nix to Twillie
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Nix to Twillie
Goddammit, yes.
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 12:08 am to lsu1919
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Defense will be this teams strong suite, and that's scary considering they're moving WR's to CB's to have depth.
Don't let that worry you. It's been done before, even in the NFL.
"Ken Ellis started every game at cornerback for the Packers from 1970-75 and was inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame in 1998. Drafted as a wide receiver out of Southern University in the fourth round in 1970, Ellis was moved to cornerback before the start of his rookie season. and was selected to the Pro Bowl in 1973 and ’74."
Here's one from closer to home:
"Corey Jonas Webster (born March 2, 1982) is a former American football cornerback who played for the New York Giants. He was drafted by the Giants in the second round of the 2005 NFL Draft and later won two Super Bowls with the team
He was an all state quarterback wearing jersey #1 for the Wildcats football team and an all state guard wearing jersey #11 for the basketball team. He was recruited as a wide receiver coming out of high school but was later asked to play cornerback at LSU
After catching 7 passes for 74 yards as a true freshman, Webster converted to Cornerback for the 2002 season. He would end his college career with 16 interceptions (2nd in school history), be named as a 1st Team All-American twice, and was a 1st Team All-SEC selection 3 times. As a Junior in 2003, he finished 2nd in the SEC with 25 pass breakups and had 17 as a Sophomore in 2002"
Posted on 3/10/18 at 12:12 am to SammyTiger
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Oh isn’t responsible for anything but wins in your book.
What did he do particularly well last year?
the poster asked my opinion of the Canada hire. I gave it to him. You make a boneheaded assumption and ask another question.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 12:21 am to Nix to Twillie
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^^^That's what I'm talking about, TR. ^^^ It's a fair question, and yeah, there's a typo in it but you knew what he meant...and yet you completely ignore it. Why you do that?
This is why he had to disappear for 2+ weeks after MSU and Troy.
People give him opportunities to give himself a little wiggle room, to actually concede a little bit, but he chooses to double and triple down on his bluster. For what reason, I don't know. I know O isn't perfect but Ree paints the regime into that corner. So when O can't live up to it, Ree runs away when the shite hits the fan.
Then when he comes back, he gets mad at us holding O to the nonsense that he was talking about the entire time.
It's going to get ugly. We may not see Ree ever again if O hits another rough patch because his rope will be up after this year if he doesn't deliver.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 12:24 am
Posted on 3/10/18 at 12:33 am to Goldrush25
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Aranda's getting paid more than the majority of HCs. Anyone can be retained if you pay well above market value for their position.
I asked if it was a bad thing to happen. thanks for the trivia.
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Isn't this his first time as actual o-line coach? We have no idea how he'll will turn out. Incomplete grade on Cregg.
No it is not. The LSU website has his biography on it.
You have no idea because you didn't even know if he had been "actual" O-line coach. Everyone else knows.
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Again, it's not as if Saban was an average coach before he built his support staff.
When did he begin having a support staff? If it was a couple/few years ago, I agree. Did he have one at LSU?
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so I don't exactly know what edge you think this gives us.
You could read the article. It is spelled out.
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That midget is the best CFB coach possibly ever
And he coaches the Alabama Crimson Tide. You can love him if you want. I don't have to and won't.
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Orgeron is a career loser, even with the interim wins added in.
Is he a loser at LSU or do you just take into account his whole career because it makes it look worse that way?
His jobs this decade show a winning record as a head coach whether you add the interim wins in or not. Bend the facts to justify your hate if you want, I really don't care.
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Don't know why you insist on respect for Orgeron that he hasn't yet earned.
Don't know why the hate for a coach who has been on the job for one season + one game that has a 10-4 record. Has added needed talent and depth to the trenches and has put together a decent if not outstanding coaching staff. Right now has the #3 class in the nation for 2019 even with a 2-star long snapper.
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Saban, and everyone else that's won big in CFB has earned respect through merit
So you should hate the LSU coach after one year on the job because of the other coaches and their merit.
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That's the way the world works
On this board with this weird message board fanbase. you ever see a MS St fan sucking off an Ole Miss coach? Ever see a Bama fan sucking off an Auburn coach? Ever see a Miami fan sucking off a FSU or UF coach?
Yeah, didn't think so.
You ever see an LSU fan sucking off the Alabama coach?
Posted on 3/10/18 at 12:37 am to TigerLunatik
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Shouldn't those players count towards the '16 class since that's when they came to LSU and when they enrolled?
They sat out the 2017 season.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 12:41 am to Tiger Ree
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Don't know why the hate for a coach who has been on the job for one season
Well his first stint as a HC didn't go so well, now did it. As far as Orgeron's last season as the HC, Orgeron himself said there will be no rebuilding, he knows the expectations at LSU. So spare me the "he's only been the coach for a year."
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one season + one game that has a 10-4 record
Am I missing a game here? I couldn't sworn we finished last season 9-4, not 10-4.
Losses to Moo St, Troy, Alabama and ND.
Who was the extra victory against? BYU, Chattanooga, Syracuse, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, Arkansas, Ole Miss, A&M. The weakest schedule we've had in quite some time and the best he could do was 9-4. 4 of the teams that he we beat fired their head coach and I assure you it wasn't because O beat them into submission.
Next year's schedule is a lot harder than what he just had. He makes it through that, then I'll eat crow and come back for seconds but I don't see it happening. He's too caught up in how he looks to his assistants and is too busy telling fans what they want to hear but seldom delivers.
So if we're supposed to settle on 9-4 as being "good enough," why did we fire Miles for going 9-3?
O's a liar and I've heard all this crap from him before. Until he delivers on the football field, I'm not buying into his preseason nonsense anymore. He's gotten me one too many times. Not happening again.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 3:06 am
Posted on 3/10/18 at 12:42 am to UpToPar
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You are the chinoyang of LSU football.
The only way someone blindly supports this level of incompetence is if:
1. They have skin in the game (which is unlikely here)
2. They are closely related to someone with skin in the game (most likely scenario)
3. They really are that stupid (possible, but I give you more credit than that)
Find something I have posted and dispute it. Trying to change the subject or make it about me just proves that what I post is correct.
I would thank you but I already knew what you have just proved.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 12:55 am to Goldrush25
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Why do you paint yourself into these corners? Do you actually believe everything you say? As every day passes your grip on reality loosens ever so slightly.
Are you really concerned about me. Like I told the last guy dispute something I posted. Prove me wrong, it should be easy right?
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What will you say if Orgeron and his staff don't live up to what you're building them up to be?
What exactly am I building them up to be?
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Can you think of any possible excuses?
Do you have excuses for when LSU is successful?
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I like to know what to expect
You couldn't bitch and bash if it was good. that would suck for you wouldn't it?
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Or do you acknowledge that you could be way off on what you see with this regime?
I'd rather be optimistic and wrong than shite on everything LSU football and be right.
This is something that was posted on the recruiting board recently.
"You can't convince a real LSU fan to give up on the Tigers"
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I am absolutely prepared to say how horribly wrong I was about Orgeron should he prove to be every bit as good as you say he is.
You must have me confused with someone who gives a shite.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:05 am to nvasil1
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You are tone deaf to any debate from some good posters on this site. Which is why no one respects you, or what you post.
Well damn, my whole goal in life is to be loved and respected on an internet message board. I will have to reevaluate my existence. I'll be right back.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:11 am to ScaryClown
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Nope an article that gets repackaged and spit out every year is not going to sell me
How many years have you seen the same article about the shadow stuff being doubled? I think if you read the article this would be the first time EVER.
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We need some fricking results on the field not this North Korea propaganda bullshite.
Some think the North Korea propaganda bullshite that has already doubled the support staff will help with the goal of getting wins. Silly huh?
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:34 am to la_birdman
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Am I missing a game here? I couldn't sworn we finished last season 9-4, not 10-4.
I'm going to be nice.
Look at the statement of mine you quoted. If you have trouble with figuring out the answer to your question by looking at my quote, let me know and I will try to explain it to you tomorrow.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:36 am to Space Cowboy
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That's right and Aranda could have easily left when A&M offered him more money to jump ship. However, he elected to stay because as he says, he believes in coach O and the direction of the program that O is leading. With Ensminger, on the other hand, when Miles's offered him the opportunity to be the OC, he turned down the job because he knew after being on the coaching staff for a while that the offensive coordinators under Miles were more or less figureheads and then scapegoats. As he would have had to run Les Miles' old very antiquated offense, as opposed to his own offense, and according to the conditions and rules as set forth by Miles. Which would have meant that he would inevitably be blamed for the poor offensive production as the scapegoat for Miles and fired. Ensminger is no dummy.
Try: Alleva stayed because he knew he could shop his offer to LSU and with Allevas track record he was next in line for a chance to be LSU’s next head coach.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 1:37 am
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:40 am to Tiger Ree
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If you have trouble with figuring out the answer to your question by looking at my quote, let me know and I will try to explain it to you tomorrow.
I just gave you the entire season from last year. Are you counting the spring game too?
You said one season + one game (I'm assuming that would be the bowl game). 12 + 1=13.
Count the opponents that were victories, there are 9. Count the losses I also supplied you with, there are 4. 9+4=13. Unless you're counting the spring game.
It's a simple question, where does this phantom 10th game come from when in every thing we've read, we finished 9-4. Really asking.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 1:49 am
Posted on 3/10/18 at 2:44 am to LSU GrandDad
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I do not let missing ONE recruit bother me.
wasnt just one recruit.
Posted on 3/10/18 at 2:51 am to Madking
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and lied to him about modernizing the offense.
this never happened. it was a bullshite rant myth.
miles was fired for his sec record the last few years.
had miles never changed a single thing about the offense and we were still winning 11-12 games a season, he'd still be the HC.
but i agree it was the offense that led to the record that then led to his firing
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 3:24 am
Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:01 am to Space Cowboy
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They won't even give him a chance.
52 4 and 5 star recruits
#6 most talented roster in cfb( ranked by people that get paid to evaluate talent)
returning senior qb
returning all sec rb
the most expensive coordinators in all of cfb
the easiest schedule in over 2 decades
AND HE LOST 4 GAMES
when your entire head coaching career is built upon shite seasons, you dont get a pass for losing to a nfl talentless Mid Major and having the worst loss in the 100 + year history of the lsu vs msu game
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 3:21 am
Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:12 am to Tiger Ree
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f they know absolutely nothing about football
there isnt a single post on the 1st 5 pages of your post history that actually talks about the actual playing of football.
its nothing but you touting O
Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:15 am to tom
quote:Yes it will take awhile to get the execution down until you recruit and sign "Bama Quality" Offensive Linemen.
Obviously, implementing the type of offense we want. Going to take a while to get the execution down.
Nothing is going to change that much until the OL recruiting philosophy changes.
Want to see what Cregg is going to do this season and how he recruits in his first full season here.
What's Brennan's weight? He'll need all the padding possible to take the hits he's going to take behind the Clappless OL.
King Lowell and/or McMillan (Or Sale) better get their shite together early because a more mobile QB might be needed just in case the OL is a disaster early on with a true freshman Center..............
Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:16 am to Goldrush25
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Why do you paint yourself into these corners? Do you actually believe everything you say? As every day passes your grip on reality loosens ever so slightly.
he has been wrong about everything.
Tigerree's stances
O is gonna hire the best coordinators.
WRONG
O is going to let his coaches coach.
WRONG
We are going to beat ND and finish with 10 wins.
WRONG
We are going to finish top 10 possibly.
WRONG
Canada isnt going anywhere.
WRONG
O is going to hire a good new OC to relace Canada.
WRONG
O is a great recruiter and will bring in elite classes
WRONG
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 3:22 am
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