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Advocate article this morning

Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:52 am
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11875 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:52 am
LINK

Interestin tidbits:

"One man was knocked unconscious and another man suffered three fractured vertebrae.... the man who was knocked unconscious and suffered contusions to his head, nose and hands is a Marine."

So Andrew was unconscious at some point; that is the hook to attempt to get this to 2nd degree.

quote:

The chief said investigators have conflicting statements from people they have interviewed about the fight and that they have not yet talked to anyone from a third party.


No third party witnesses yet?


Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:54 am to
quote:

So Andrew was unconscious at some point; that is the hook to attempt to get this to 2nd degree.



fractured vertebrae will also get you to 2nd degree.

Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34848 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:54 am to
quote:

No third party witnesses yet?


I was shocked by that too. I figured they at least got some info from third party witnesses once they arrived on scene.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93722 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:56 am to
quote:

The chief said investigators have conflicting statements from people they have interviewed about the fight and that they have not yet talked to anyone from a third party.


he said/she said


this shite will never get resolved.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:58 am to
quote:

No third party witnesses yet?


That's the part I don't understand.
Part of me thinks people would jump at the chance to name and shame a high-profile football player, and part of me thinks the opposite.

The three fractured vertebrae is kind of hard to explain away though.
Posted by cajun12
Houma, LA
Member since Sep 2004
2461 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:58 am to
How much of the testimony will stand-in court is the question? If they were all drinking or drunk, I doubt any of it will stand.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14874 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:58 am to
who determined he was unconscious? paramedics or a bystander?
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16217 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:59 am to
quote:

No third party witnesses yet?


No one should be shocked by this. If it were March, yeah a third party witness would've materialized, but to expect a third party witness to come forward 10 days before the start of the season, one of the biggest games of the year, and deep in the heart of tiger country all I can say is....

Don't hold your breath.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 7:59 am to
quote:

If they were all drinking or drunk, I doubt any of it will stand.





all of it will stand. Credibility is a question for the jury.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:03 am to
quote:

fractured vertebrae will also get you to 2nd degree.


that's IF they were fractured as a result of the fight.

This cat has been in a burglary, he's a marine, and been kicked out of High school. I'd like to see his prior meds to clarify if this is a traumatic injury over something from his colorful past.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 8:06 am
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:05 am to
It's time for BRPD to either shite or get off the pot. If you have 2 parties giving 2 different stories with no 3rd party witness, it's time to pull the plug on the investigation. Let the other pieces of shite that got injured take the football players to court to try to cover medical bills. Good luck on getting your money too.

Moral of this whole story: don't honk your horn and yell at the LSU football team, especially when there's 50 of them and 2 of your group and you are a lot smaller and weaker than them.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:07 am to
quote:

I'd like to see his prior meds to clarify if this is a traumatic injury over something from his colorful past.


the MRI taken on Friday would have told the doctors if it was a new, or chronic injury from before.

Sorry, the doctors would have expressed as much in the reports given to the police.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:07 am to
quote:

RealityTiger


geeees.

looks like we have different expectations of how players the represent LSU should conduct themselves in public.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 8:09 am
Posted by EOT
70769
Member since Dec 2006
1432 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:08 am to
quote:

It's time for BRPD to either shite or get off the pot


They can't figure this out and we wonder why they can't at least slow down the murder rate in the city. They look like a bunch of bumbling fools.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
61930 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:09 am to
broken bones get you second degree battery. Police wait in the ER for the xrays sometimes to find out if they're fractures or not.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38410 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:10 am to
quote:

fractured vertebrae will also get you to 2nd degree.



Gotta prove the fracture was a result of the fight first, he could have got them from something else.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:10 am to
quote:

the MRI taken on Friday would have told the doctors if it was a new, or chronic injury from before.

Sorry, the doctors would have expressed as much in the reports given to the police.


x-ray's determine fractures of the bone. MRI's are for tissue/disc.

dr's go by history. if the patient says they didn't have any fractures prior, then their opinion is based on what the patient says. however, when presented a different history, that same dr's testimony generally changes.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 8:12 am
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:11 am to
quote:

dr's go by history. if the patient says they didn't have any fractures prior, then their opinion is based on the what the patient says. however, when presented a different history, that same dr's testimony generally changes.







And you believe that this individual lied to the doctors...lied to police and is forging a fake report?

BTW Lowrey, the guy with the history, DOES NOT HAVE THE FRACTURED VERTEBRAE.

I mean really, you think the police, hospital, alleged victim, etc...are all in on some "conspiracy"?

You people have jumped the shark.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6512 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:14 am to
quote:

fractured vertebrae will also get you to 2nd degree.

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36709 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 8:14 am to
quote:

They can't figure this out and we wonder why they can't at least slow down the murder rate in the city.


THIS is my question.
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