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re: A top 15 finish is not guaranteed with a win.

Posted on 12/25/15 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 12:19 pm to
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And then there was Choctaw. 
Like clockwork. 


It's It's so laughable how Choctaw, Grey, Beefense, and I get labeled Miles defenders just because we choose to look at the positives within our program rather than look at the negatives. You can gripe about the last 5 years if you want but we have 4 top 15 finishes in those last 5 years and they were better from a win loss standpoint than Saban's tenure. Of course Miles' last 5 years won't be as good as his first 5 years. His first 5 years were an unprecedented 5 year run in lsu history.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/25/15 at 12:25 pm to
I don't recall who finished number 2 and below last year.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32062 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 12:25 pm to
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top 15 finish


print the shirts
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19089 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 12:35 pm to
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1 top 15 finish may not be elite and string of them i


It's good, not great. Just my opinion of course but if we finish between 10 and 15 for the next 3 or 4 years straight it would feel stale. At some point I'd have to wonder if we can't do any better. Top 2 in the division is a consistent, respectable, solid standing and I'd be happy with that all day without feeling like we settled.

ETA: Since you post about it every day, at what point is finishing in the top 15 not enough anymore?
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19089 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 12:40 pm to
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It's so laughable how Choctaw, Grey, Beefense, and I get labeled Miles defenders just because we choose to look at the positives within our program rather than look at the negatives. 


Looking at the positives is one thing and I'm perfectly okay with that but at some point it stops being about that and becomes more about ridiculing other posters and creating more negativity. There was nothing positive about choctaw's post. It was bitching for bitching's sake.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29998 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:03 pm to
Probably because half the teams in front of us should lose considering they are in a bowl game against another good team.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:12 pm to
Name all 15 teams that should be ahead of them please.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:18 pm to
I don't think its about being satisfied..even posi-tigers aren't. Its merely to point out that the program is not a bottom feeder, has not lost respectability, and is not mediocre. Its still a very good program, but has slipped from an elite program over the last few years...hopefully can get back there soon....but LSU, based upon overall performance over the last 4-6 yyears, is still a top 10 program....if you disagree...name the too 10 and defend each.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Since you post about it every day, at what point is finishing in the top 15 not enough anymore?



I post about it daily because daily we have idiots on here talking about how horrible our last 5 years have been. I post about it because the lsu players that sacrificed for those seasons( many of which will never make a dime playing football) know that there are some lsu fans that appreciate that sacrifice. At no point will lsu's program be above top 15 finishes. It's amazing how spoiled this fan base has become in just 10 years. We have lsu fans saying finishing in the top 15 out of 126 programs is mediocre. Finishing top 15 while playing in the hardest division in cfb is never a mediocre season. Of course finishing higher is better and we should always strive for a title but I refuse to crap on the sacrifice the players made for those finishes. There was a poster on here that actually said that the players won't tell there grandkids about top 15 finishes in cfb when that poster will probably tell his grandkids about his highschool days in football. It's laughable.
I get saying you think or wish they would've done better but to sit here and say the last 5 seasons were shite is just ignorant. Do you know how hard it is to finish top 15 4 out of 5 years? 2 sec programs have done. When you accomplish something only the top .5% of cfb programs accomplish it's a great accomplishment. I agree that all those seasons taken by themselves aren't special but to finish in the top 15 7 of his 10 seasons at lsu is a great accomplishment and it was achieved during the most successful era of sec football ever. Look I'm like you, I want a better head coach but if was made clear that the president doesn't care what we want. He doesn't care that only an experienced qb can be successful in our scheme.
He doesn't care that at times our play calling makes no sense at all.
He doesn't care that when our team is plagued by stupid penalties,Miles just pats them on the butt.
I'm ready for a change but I refuse to shite on our past 5 years like they weren't up to MY standards when I don't do shite to make lsu football a better product
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:19 pm to
So....doesn't matter to you whether you finish 2nd in the nnation, or 100th....they are equal. Makes sense.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:23 pm to
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print the shirts


List all your sports accomplishments that make top 15 finishes in cfb meaningless.
I'm pretty sure our former players would appreciate it if you stopped shitting on the aaccomplishments that they sacrificed for.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:29 pm to
Excellent post Rickdaddy. This is the same way I feel about the program and their accomplishments .

Well said.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14107 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:29 pm to
The issue for the Negas is they love to throw "water" on anyone who tries to think positively. Happiness for a Nega is attempting to make others as miserable at LSU's current position/condition as they are.

If we beat TT, we MIGHT make it as high as #15 in the final rankings. It doesn't hurt to think that way and adds another reason to win and cheer for LSU. If we win and finish 16-20, no problem. Finishing #16 or #17 or #18 is better than not finishing ranked at all. And it won't be a mediocre finish either. Mediocre suggest being lower than the Top 25, imo. A good season but not a great season.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10346 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:38 pm to
Boom
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:47 pm to
Good job man. The little punks that think they are cute will still shite on this post...but you know what's funny...most give zero to LSU...and never will...yet they act like they are super fans that know it all. Frick the negatigers. I, like you, think we need a change...but I'm also not going to shite on what miles has accomplished. There was one idiot the other day that said our program isn't cares per table anymore...another idiot chimed in that it has been all downhill since saban. I mean how stupid is that. Geaux tigers.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19089 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 1:58 pm to
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I'm pretty sure our former players would appreciate it if you stopped shitting on the aaccomplishments that they sacrificed for.


I think all of those former players would tell you they're very proud of their accomplishments, but they could have done better. That's all I've ever said. I'm happy that we are better than 80% of the teams in college football, but bow let's take the next step. I'm not going to call this a great season because it's the healthy positive thing to do and the players will appreciate it. I would just be blowing smoke. Does that mean I'm not proud to be a tiger? Hell no.

ETA: Have an upvote for your long post. I really do appreciate your loyalty and in many ways I wish I could think like you do in the midst of all this.

I realized about an hour ago that I hate this thread and wish I hadn't started it
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4851 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 2:15 pm to
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There was nothing positive about choctaw's post. It was bitching for bitching's sake.


Now...THIS is an example of irony.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2146 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 2:23 pm to
Team can only control how they play and if they win. Don't sweat things like rankings-- it's not in your control-- just win!
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16049 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 2:33 pm to
nothing wrong with finishing in the top 25 almost every year. We are probably have one of the top 20 or 30 programs in the country and their is nothing wrong with that.
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281857 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 2:47 pm to
13 or 19, doesn't really matter.
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