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re: A team that doesn't win their conference, doesn't deserve to play
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:49 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:49 am to H-Town Tiger
The statement is accurate as long as it applies only to Georgia.
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Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:49 am to H-Town Tiger
Then it's the same old argument against the BCS, only it's the 5th ranked team getting left out instead of the 3rd ranked team. I don't think that solves anything personally.
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:50 am to ezride25
A team that doesn't win its conference should not go to the title game over the conf champ of the SEC, Pac-10, Big XII or Big Ten. But a one-loss non-champ of those conferences should be considered if one or more of the title game participants are champs of the WAC, MWC, Big East, ACC or Conference USA.
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Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:53 am to ezride25
I'd have to disagree with you.
So if Auburn loses to Bama and then to whoever they play in the SEC Champs and we win out...We shouldn't go to the BCSNC over them?
On your bike...
So if Auburn loses to Bama and then to whoever they play in the SEC Champs and we win out...We shouldn't go to the BCSNC over them?
On your bike...
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:53 am to ezride25
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Then it's the same old argument against the BCS, only it's the 5th ranked team getting left out instead of the 3rd ranked team. I don't think that solves anything personally.
I don't care if the 5th teams whines, I'm not trying to solve anything. I just think its better, it would have avoided the BCS controversies, notably 03 and 04, along with 00 and 01.
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:54 am to Topwater Trout
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I am just amazed that the NFL, FCS, highschools etc do not see how great the system is in NCAA d-1 to crown a champion. When will they come around to settle it like we do with a BCS system
the NFL is structure specifically for its playoff system
high schools, CBB, and D1AACFB let in an insane # of teams to combat their non-playoff organization
allowing in a ton of teams is illogical
This post was edited on 11/7/10 at 10:55 am
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:54 am to Mike Linebacker
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A team that doesn't win its conference should not go to the title game over the conf champ of the SEC, Pac-10, Big XII or Big Ten. But a one-loss non-champ of those conferences should be considered if one or more of the title game participants are champs of the WAC, MWC, Big East, ACC or Conference USA.
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bullshite. If TCU wins out and AU losses one game and then losses the SECCG LSU wins out they should not pass TCU for the title game.
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:55 am to ezride25
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Then it's the same old argument against the BCS, only it's the 5th ranked team getting left out instead of the 3rd ranked team. I don't think that solves anything personally.
i call this the myth of the "next team"
it exists in all playoff formats
singling out the BCS as the single entity which has this problem is stupid
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:56 am to dukke v
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bullshite. If TCU wins out and AU losses one game and then losses the SECCG LSU wins out they should not pass TCU for the title game.
So strength of schedule should never matter then?
GTFO!
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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allowing in a ton of teams is illogical
I believe in a 16 team format. Conference champs and at large bids. Do away with bowls and allow the top 8 seeds to play at hoem until the championship game
Posted on 11/7/10 at 10:59 am to dukke v
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. If TCU wins out and AU losses one game and then losses the SECCG LSU wins out they should not pass TCU for the title game
so say you, But I think LSU (and not because I'm an LSU fan) should be considered at least because they played a much better schedule.
In 08 if OU had lost the Big 12 CCG, UT should (and would have) have gone over unbeaten Utah. TCU and Boise are just getting media hype this year, thats the only difference.
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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singling out the BCS as the single entity which has this problem is stupid
I didn't say it was only the BCS. However, the BCS is the only format used to determine a champion that uses only 2 teams. I'm pretty sure that the 65 in the NCAABB tourney have a better chance of having the best team included in that group than football does using only two teams in their "tournament."
Nobody argues about the NIT champion 66th best team in the country not being included. At some point the next team is irrelevant. I do not think that point is reached at no.3 or even no.5. Number 16? Maybe.
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:00 am to Topwater Trout
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Do away with bowls
that would cost CFB a shitload of money
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:01 am to Topwater Trout
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I believe in a 16 team format.
please tell me the 16 teams right now (assuming the season ended) who have shown they are legit title contenders
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:01 am to ezride25
It will vary from year to year, but I think you can make the cut in CFB at 4.
This post was edited on 11/7/10 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:02 am to xGeauxLSUx
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So strength of schedule should never matter then?
GTFO!
Never said that. But its how it would work.
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:03 am to ezride25
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I'm pretty sure that the 65 in the NCAABB tourney have a better chance of having the best team included in that group
you also include a bunch of non-worthy teams whose ONLY function would be to disrupt the system
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At some point the next team is irrelevant.
this is simply not true
every playoff birth is an entitlement
and if you're playing in non-home stadiums, that entitlement is essentially equal
that 65th team has a similar resume to the 66th, and therefore the "next team" is possibly getting screwed
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:03 am to MC5601
There was a lot of talk about Michigan playing Ohio St. again for the NC, the last time LSU played and won the NC game.
I would suspect that IF the Tigers win out, as does AU, there will be talk about LSU playing AU for the NC. As there should be; seeing how LSU played AU tough, as well as the difficulty of LSU’s schedule.
Just Saying...
I would suspect that IF the Tigers win out, as does AU, there will be talk about LSU playing AU for the NC. As there should be; seeing how LSU played AU tough, as well as the difficulty of LSU’s schedule.
Just Saying...
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:04 am to H-Town Tiger
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so say you, But I think LSU (and not because I'm an LSU fan) should be considered at least because they played a much better schedule.
I agree that LSU played a better schedule. We also DON'T know how good TCU would be in the SEC. Would they be unbeaten?? Very Doubtful, but they could also only have one loss.
Posted on 11/7/10 at 11:07 am to ezride25
I agree except for the SEC. If LSU ends up as the only one loss team they should play in the big game. Four straight champs deserve a team in the big game
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