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re: A Question about Les Miles and his character
Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Oh god you are a lawyer? And you think that in order to preserve his honor, Miles should dishonor a contract? 
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Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:52 am to biglego
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Miles should dishonor a contract?
huh?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:52 am to SlowFlowPro
If his contract says he is owed a certain amount of money, then why is it a taint on his character to take the money they both agreed to give him?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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etc...in 2004 saban was still building the talent base that we enjoyed from 2005-2007. now in 2008-2009 we face the same depth problems, but there isn't a "program building "ecxcuse.
so saban was still building the talent base after 5 yrs of being HC but miles is not. typical example of the different standard miles is held to than saban. all of sabans failures are swept under the rug now that he's gone AND is successful at bama. if you compare sabans tenure here with miles they're pretty comparable. thing is, people add sabans last 2 yrs at bama to his asset side; they conveniently leave out sabans first yr there.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
By far your dumbest post SPF.
There's no way you would turn down money owed to you from the people that just fired you.
I don't think you believe your OP.
There's no way you would turn down money owed to you from the people that just fired you.
I don't think you believe your OP.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 11:09 am to LSU GrandDad
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typical example of the different standard miles is held to
miles inherited the teams that we had in 2005-2007
saban inherited much weaker teams with no depth
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if you compare sabans tenure here with miles they're pretty comparable
if you compare teh cupboard of what saban inherited compared to what miles inherited, they're not comparable
Posted on 1/7/10 at 11:09 am to Stingray
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I don't think you believe your OP.
i certainly have a want to believe
Posted on 1/7/10 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Well, it is a damn strong belief.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 11:14 am to Stingray
Les may have character, but he isn't stupid.
Les will fix the offense next yr like he did the defense this year. The bowl game doesn't count because the mud field negated LSU's speed advantage. I can't think of an available coach out there who would be better than Les for next season.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 11:16 am to MightyYat
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Slow, would you walk away from $4 million year? Character smarachter. Les isn't as stupid as many here would like you to believe. He knows he has a good thing here and LSU is literally going to have to run his arse away from here.
i agree 100%, LSU gave him a contract through 2012 or so. it's not his job to walk away from it. jmo, but an 8-4 season and he's gone but he will get paid for the remainder of his contract.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 11:20 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No. It doesn't.
making us pay it shows low character and a want to hurt the program
Posted on 1/7/10 at 11:20 am to Shanesix
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6-6 or worse next year
"this will NOT happen!!"
It is very close to happening.
This post was edited on 1/7/10 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/7/10 at 12:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if gets fired and takes the money from LSU and then he gets another job in that time frame he has to credit LSU for the salary he's receiving from the new school
In other words, you'd tell your client, "Look you just got fired, but I'm sure you'll get another job soon and then you'll have to give that money back to LSU. So just don't take the money in the first place." I have to ask: Do your employers know you subscribe to beliefs such as this?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 12:30 pm to Elleshoe
Maybe this year will be the WAKE UP call to Lester that's been sorely needed. YOu've changed DC's adn OC's now. It is on YOU big LES.
Wade PHillips responded. Can LEs?
Wade PHillips responded. Can LEs?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 12:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
So in your view, someone with character just quits and walks away from his job when things aren't going well? I don't call that character ... I call that a loser. Someone with character, keeps plugging away and makes an attempt to right the ship. I guess that tells me everything I need to know about your "character".
Posted on 1/7/10 at 12:48 pm to Gizmeaux
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Miles could learn a thing or two.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 12:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
Wouldn't that also be quiting?
That isn't high character.
That isn't high character.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:SFP, I could not disagree with you more. It would show low character if he failed to provide for his family because he felt guilty for something. One of the reasons you have to pay such a high price to get coaches like Miles is that they know the risk. Fans are fickle. Schools like to keep their alums happy, so sometimes they fire guys who are doing their best. If their best isn't good enough, then the person who hired the coach is to blame, not the coach. Don't hire people who don't have the talent you expect. If the coach is not trying to do his best, then he may be fired for cause and will not get paid.
it shows low character
As lawyer, you should know that parties enter contracts to minimize risk to allow themselves to have predictability in the future. If LSU wanted a coach who would resign and not take any money if he didn't win, then it should have hired someone and preseved that right in a contract. However, any coach who would sign such a contract wouldn't be smart enough to coach LSU IMO.
This post was edited on 1/7/10 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 1/7/10 at 1:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
saban inherited much weaker teams with no depth
So, after Saban's FIFTH recruiting class, he had no depth, but the 2005 team was loaded with depth?
Interesting logic.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we're 1 inch, 1 broken tackle, and an OT away from 6-7
But this is crap reasoning. You can't reinvent records to make a larger point. LSU is 9-4. Is that good enough or not?
By your reasoning Alabama is 1 leg cramp and two lucky filed goal blocks by Mr. Kool Aid away from losing 2 games.
Texas is the 1 second away from missing the BCS game.
I could go on.
You cannot reinvent Les' record.
Love him or hate him, the record is what it is.
I think it is possibe to argue that given the woeful pittiful disgraceful offense the rest of the team overachieved. That is all you can at this point. What the staff does the next 7 months tactically and strategically cements their legacies. Simple enough.
Personally I think he ought to scrap the whole offensive staff save the two new guys. That is what I would do.
But don't try to reinvent his record. You're too hip for that SFP.
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