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re: A mobile QB is better for RPO

Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:20 am to
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:20 am to
True enough, but it definitely makes their job harder. Which is the goal ultimately
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:22 am to
And you have more numbers and leverage on your side of the QB is a threat to keep on a zone read.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:24 am to
Two feet are better than one for RPO.
Posted by sportsfan
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:25 am to
Are we talking about RPO or Zone Read? They are not the same.
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:26 am to
Or at least the threat of two feet. The defensive player that the QB is reading on an RPO knows if the QB can run or not
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:28 am to
The threat of the zone read QB keep opens up the pass on the RPO
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:28 am to
quote:

an accurate thrower of the ball that has pocket presence is better for passing the ball.


But.. but... Read OPTION!!!

In all seriousness, JD wont survive running a lot in the SEC. BK alluded to him having to put on weight and Moscana said it numerous times. He's 185lbs.
Posted by ELTIGRE52
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:29 am to
Tom Brady goat would you call him mobile.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:31 am to
I want the QB THROWING not running around. His mobility is only good for a collapsed pocket.
Posted by saintpedro7
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:31 am to
Yes sir
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:32 am to
He’s started 30 games and never been hurt. Brennan was tackled by a deck and was out for the year.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:33 am to
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What makes an RPO effective isn't just how mobile the QB is.

Our best offense ever which was fairly heavy RPO had Joe Burrow running it and nobody would confuse him with Cam Newton or Mike Vick as a ground attacker.

You can be highly effective with an RPO offense even with a not very mobile QB if they can make good reads on the RPO as well as make precise passes more than just simply pulling it and running it.
yep. What makes the RPO work best is a quick (decision making AND release) and accurate passer. Making that read, like you said, is all important. But, a passer that can eat up that coverage short-to-mid range (LBs & S's primarily) is what makes it work. Without that fear, the LBs and S can split assignments and sit on both, run and pass. It is the most effective in the very short window time-wise that starts at the RB/QB mesh and ends when the coverage recovers/defender fills a gap. The QB has to strike in that short window. To the RB it is still the same- get ball, hit hole.

To the OP: *sigh- not this shite again* Google both RPO and read-option please. RPO is nothing more than a glorified play action fake. The difference being the decision to make it a fake (i.e. pass) is made real-time and not in the huddle. Has nothing to do with a mobile QB beyond a standard play call.
Posted by TigerDM
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:34 am to
This is exactly correct, Joe Burrow was extremely effective in the RPO, not because he was mobile, it was because he had such great pocket presence. He was very adept at anticipating the pass rush and moving to the soft spot.
He had numerous great runs because of space created by the defense getting out of position because of having to cover all the receivers.

The TD pass to Jefferson late against Texas is a prime example of Joe B's pocket presence. Almost every other QB we have had would have been sacked. He moved to the soft spot in the pass rush to buy himself time to hit Jefferson.
Posted by sportsfan
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:36 am to
Not at all. I can give you dozens of examples, but I'll just give one. Run Inside Zone with the weak tackle blocking out on the edge defender. Backside slot runs a slant or spot route. Read the weakside LB. If he pursues the runningback, then QB pulls and hits the slot in the area the LB vacated. Whether the QB is a threat to run is irrelevant. You're trying to get the defense to commit to stopping the RB to open up holes for the pass.
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:37 am to
How the defensive player the QB is reading reacts depends on how mobile he is.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:38 am to
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You're assuming that when an RPO is called, the coaches want to throw the ball? If the nickel or read player defends the pass, then just hand it off because you have blocking numbers. That's the beauty of the RPO. It's all about numbers and leverage.


No I am not assuming that at all. When an RPO is called it is a run play with a pass option if one player on the defense does one specific thing. If you notice the LB is leaving his zone on every run play then you have a slot or tight end go to that zone and throw the ball to them if the LB bites on the run play.
Posted by 5Alive
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:39 am to
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your title literally says a mobile QB is better for RPO when that has no significance for an RPO



No signficance? Non mobile Qbs in college are a dying breed. Its over its a wrap. The more things you make a defesne account for is the philosophy now. Statues wont beat Bama or any elite team.
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:40 am to
So the decision of a nickel corner is unaffected whether it’s Lamar Jackson or Matt Ryan faking the handoff?
Posted by sportsfan
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:41 am to
quote:

No I am not assuming that at all. When an RPO is called it is a run play with a pass option if one player on the defense does one specific thing. If you notice the LB is leaving his zone on every run play then you have a slot or tight end go to that zone and throw the ball to them if the LB bites on the run play.


I'm agreeing with you. That was my response to the OP.
Posted by 5Alive
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:42 am to
Its a cute concept until you have a robber walking down that slant post snap with 1 saftey high. What do you do then? shite the bed?
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