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re: A 21 million dollar buyout..

Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by brasher1907
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:33 pm to
The buyout will end up at around $10 million, and he will gladly take it. He will be presented with an option to take the $10 million or be fired for cause.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79425 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:33 pm to
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Why was he really hired?


Because he sold Alleva in the fact that all the team needed was someone who would make a smart OC hire and that he could do that.

And after 3 tries he did that. O’s issue is his trial and error approach to coordinator hiring.

Remember, we went 9-3 the year before. We were 2-2 when we fired Les but we also played 2/4 best teams on our schedule.

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Do you really think they wanted him?


There are lots and lots of interviews where Alleva says exactly that.

The fact that we missed on Tom Herman who was the hottest name in coaching searches that year doesn’t mean there is NO another coach who wanted to come to LSU.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:35 pm
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:34 pm to
Do not forget the Binder
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:34 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:38 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:35 pm to
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And future Louisiana players, yes


If you are the administration, and you don't want him and he was a place holder... how do you get him out?

Wouldn't you have to be sure by changing the public perception? How do you do that? Heck, you still had a lot of people wanting Les.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:37 pm
Posted by gerkin
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:36 pm to
I could see kiffin hiring him as a DL coach. Just not sure if O has it in him to “backtrack” to that
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:39 pm to
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I could see kiffin hiring him as a DL coach. Just not sure if O has it in him to “backtrack” to that




1. LSU hires Kiffin, brings his big boob girlfriend.
2. Kiffin hires Ed to be the DL coach.
3. Kiffin and Ed party with all the fake boob chicks like USC/TN days likes it hot.
4. Kiffin does his thing, LSU fires Kiffin.
5. Ed becomes intern HC and dates even more fake boob chicks.


This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:40 pm
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:40 pm to
I get that and I understand what you’re saying. But I also feel like the results on the field are changing perceptions as well. And the bottom line is that the head coach is going to be responsible for that.

And I know you believe O doesn’t get to actually hire his staff, but there were a lot of guys that we brought over from usc. that kinda throws a wrench in your theory. Guys that O was close too.

Then you have to wonder why we have a guy that can’t choose his own staff in the first place. If you’re theory is correct. But I just don’t believe it.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:41 pm to
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Would it be out of line to suggest in 2016 that he was very popular with the players and fans in Louisiana? And that was the reason, and the primary reason?


Well #1 yea it is out of line because most LsU fans didn’t want him

#2 Regardless, that’s a horrible reason to make a hire
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:42 pm to
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But I also feel like the results on the field are changing perceptions as well.


But if you're the administration don't you have to push things even further? I mean, a good portion of the fans wanted Alleva's arse because he fire Les.

The administration doesn't want Ed, so it becomes very much a Tennessee thing. They had to work behind the HC's back to get him out.

That is how they ended up with Lamo and Ed. It was all pre planned.



Lamo and Ed fricked TN over, and they ended up with burning mattresses. The administration deserved it. It has been a continuous downhill for them (Tennessee) since that time - good.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:46 pm to
None of that means anything as it relates to LSU

And even if it did, you already said losing is fine, so what do you care?
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:48 pm to
I mean, even if you’re correct, os actions are on him. Unless you think his actions off the field are completely being fabricated.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:50 pm to
abellsujr,

Now ask yourself. Why do you think a handful of posters get mad at me by just mentioning Woodward. A name probably 99% of the people that watch the games doesn't even know exists.

Isn't the Rant a great and popular place that could be used to change perception?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79425 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:50 pm to
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If you are the administration, and you don't want him and he was a place holder... how do you get him out?



I think That’s a big assumption.

I dont Think Woodward wanted to fire O before he started losing.

If he was plotting after 2019 to fire him the contract makes 0 sense.

This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:53 pm
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
13049 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:52 pm to
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but why did Alleva hire him even if he didn't want to?



Your argument is Alleva failed by hiring Ed.

I agree.

Your argument as to why ED is failing is SW gave contracts to the coaches ED wanted?
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:56 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:53 pm to
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I mean, even if you’re correct, os actions are on him. Unless you think his actions off the field are completely being fabricated.


Absolutely, if he has done something wrong of course, discipline, documentation, and possibly firing could be justified.

But, Les was doing a whole bunch of things, and they knew... they've learned they have to change the perception of the players and fans especially with a coach that is popular.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79425 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:55 pm to
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But, Les was doing a whole bunch of things, and they knew... they've learned they have to change the perception of the players and fans especially with a coach that is popular.


1. Who is they? Alleva and Woodward are two different people.

2. Les got fired because he lost games.

3. They never leaked Lea’s off the field stuff so it doesn’t seem relevant.

4. O is going to get fired for on the field stuff unless something big comes out.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:57 pm to
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1. Who is they? Alleva and Woodward are two different people. 2. Les got fired because he lost games. 3. They never leaked Lea’s off the field stuff so it doesn’t seem relevant. 4. O is going to get fired for on the field stuff unless something big comes out.


Oh no Woodward wasn't here, the school administration knew. They've known all this stuff, which is really what the investigation is about. Its not about Ed, its about the school.

I expect almost anytime I mention Woodward that a few out here will go ape shite. Perception, in this case though its like Joe Biden is going to change someone's mind with his out of touch tweets.

The administration is going to have to find as many losses as they can.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
13049 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:05 pm to
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expect almost anytime I mention Woodward that a few out here will go ape shite.


No one is going ape shite.

Just dumbfounded. You’re laying an investigation on SW (when he was at AM) and also saying it’s SW fault ED is failing Bc he gave contracts to the coaches Ed wanted. And not laying any blame on Ed for his failing on the field and actions off the field that violate “moral” clause in contract.

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The administration is going to have to find as many losses as they can.


Won’t be difficult, looking down the barrel at a 5-7 season.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 5:09 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79425 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:12 pm to
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Oh no Woodward wasn't here, the school administration knew. They've known all this stuff, which is really what the investigation is about. Its not about Ed, its about the school.


What are you talking about? It’s almost impossible to follow you because you know won’t make any real points.

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The administration is going to have to find as many losses as they can.



Bruh O is finding them all on his own. This isn’t about anything else.

If he’s winning everyone loves that he’s showing up with hot blondes and calling out UCLA fans.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 5:14 pm
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